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    Czech Surname - meaning?

    Hello dear Community!

    I really need some advice, maybe there are some czech people, or people who are well versed in czech genealogy.

    The name I am looking for is Mejstrik. I have been looking for its meaning for several hours/days now, but I could not find it. There are some theories, but as I can't speak czech and I am not familiar with czech culture, it is quite hard for me to get the right answer.

    1. Theory - This name was, before its changing the german word Meister, which means Master. It was used for craftsman or for jewish Rabbis, who were "religious masters".
    Maybe the word Meister came to Bohemia, became Meist(e)rich and after all it became Mejstrik.


    2. Theory - The name origins in the german Surname Meier - which is quite common in german and austrian regions. Its meaning comes from the latin word maius, which means taller, stronger or important. Although I don't really see a phonetical connection between these two names, an user from a genealogy-forum told me this.


    3. Theory - The names roots come from Meistrich, which is a surname by itself (or another variant of Meisterich?). I don't know the meaning of this surname.


    I found some different variants of this name like, Maystrik, Mystrik, Meistrick, Mejstřík, Mestric, Majstrich - they all have a connection, although I don't know the ancestral of its branches.


    I would be very grateful if somebody can help me with this name.


    Thank you a lot!

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    1 or 3 seem most probable to me. However I did not come across any variation of that name in this list of early modern Prague Jewish surnames. The closest I could find was "Östreich" which sometimes morphed into something like "Oystruch" or "Oistrakh."

    I suppose a fourth remote possibility is that the name comes from "Maastricht."
     

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    Thanks for your reply!

    I found this when I was looking for Meister - http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=meister

    My idea is that the german name Meister got transcripted into Mejster, the czech people added the suffix -ek (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categ...fixed_with_-ek), what sounded Mejstek, which is very similiar to Mejstrik.

    What do you think about this version?

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    I asked in a Czech group that I am a part of on Facebook. I will let you know if I get any feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximilian View Post
    My idea is that the german name Meister got transcripted into Mejster, the czech people added the suffix -ek (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categ...fixed_with_-ek), what sounded Mejstek, which is very similiar to Mejstrik.

    What do you think about this version?
    That seems like a good guess. I notice a tendency in Slavic countries to modify names from different (even other Slavic) countries by adding an appropriate ending.
     

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    E1b-V13 England
    I1-M253 Ireland
    I2-M423 Ukraine
    R1a-L176.1 Scotland
    R1b-L584 Syria/Turkey (Sephardi)
    R1b-L20 Ireland
    R1b-L21 (1)England; (2)Wales?>Connecticut
    R1b-L48 England
    R1b-P312 Scotland
    R1b-FGC32576 Ireland

    Other ancestral mtDNA lines:

    H1b2a Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    H6a1a3 Ukraine
    K1a9 Belarus (Ashkenazi)
    K1c2 Ireland
    V7a Ukraine

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    According to the book "Naše příjmení" (Our surnames) written by Jan Kotík in 1897 Mejstřík is derived from academic title "mistr", lat. mister.

    According to the book "Naše příjmení" (Our surnames) written by Dobrava Moldánová in 2010 Mejstřík is derived from general word mejstřík = manor administrator, he was in charge of tools; shepherd swain

    So two completely different views.
    Last edited by Petr; 10-11-2016 at 07:36 PM.
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