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    We tracked down and sequenced an R1b-M335 man (Italian background)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravetto-Danubian View Post
    We tracked down and sequenced an R1b-M335 man (Italian background)
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R1b/
    First one ever
    Someone is very happy

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    It be interesting to see if we get ancient DNA out of this, the skeleton looks well perserved:





    see story here:
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-...ntral-39002843

    As we are currently lacking aDNA from Scotland this would be very interesting particulary to compare with the Iron age aDNA genomes from what is now England (York and Hinxton) and also to compare with BA Rathlin samples from Ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Magyar DNA: http://doktori.bibl.u-szeged.hu/3794...raczki_PhD.pdf

    Edit: About Y-DNA haplogroups: pages 44-46, 97, 98
    E1b1a (E-m2) in Magyar ?.....................



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    The new paper on Magyar MtDNA (http://doktori.bibl.u-szeged.hu/3794...raczki_PhD.pdf) contains interesting figures, but it strangely defines a long list of haplotypes Scandinavian-Germanic: U5a1a1h, U5a1i, U5a2a2a, U5a2b, U2e2a1a2, K1c1, H1b2, H1b1, H1c1, H2a1c, H15b, H5e1, H5+709, H5e1, H6a1a, H6a1b, T1a1, T2b, T2b4h, T2f1a1, J1c2, J1c3g, J1c7a, J1b1a1, J1b1a1-146, X2c1, X2f, I5a1, T1a10a, H2a1+146.

    To my knowledge, ancient Hungarians did not ride to Scandinavia to marry local women but it was more probably the Vikings who saled back home from Russia with an exotic wife. In this paper the Volga Ural cultural area is omitted and Slavs seem to have mostly Germanic-Scandinavian mtDNA.

    I made a list of these Germanic-Scandinavian haplotypes with reference to ethnic groups where they are found today. I have used mostly Ian Logan site: http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_...oup_select.htm and the Swedish haplogroup database: http://dna.scangen.se/index.php?sokt...en&show=search and Bermisheva et al paper on Volga Ural mtDNA, but these sources are not exhaustive!

    U5a1a1h Poland; (256, 270, 294, 399) Lipka Tatars; not in Sweden
    U5a1i rare everywhere, found at least in Spain, Norway
    U5a2a2a Finland, Denmark (Ian Logan); not in Sweden
    U5a2b Tunisia, Buryatia, Khamnigans, Poland, Austria, Lebanon, Bulgaria, Serbia; U5a2b Chuvash, Bashkirs, Maris, Tatars; widespread in Khanty (192 256 270); particularly frequent in Poland; Mordvine (16215);
    K1c1 typical in Volga Ural: Chuvash, Maris, Tatars (K1c1e); K1c1, K1c1c frequent in whole Finland; K1c1b and K1c2 Western Europe; K1c frequent in Switzerland and Scandinavia, in Sweden K1c1 and K1c1b
    H1b2 Tatars (16356 16080 16189); Khanty, Mansi H1b2a (80 184A 189 356); Russians, Poles; Rare in Sweden
    H1b1 Mordvins; Tatars, Bashkirs, Komipermjaks H1b1a; Balkars; Buryats H1b1a; in Sweden H1b1b, in Finland H1b1
    H1c1 H1c in Tatars, in Iran and Buryatia H1ca; Northwest Caucasus; frequent in Sweden
    H2a1c Adyge, Poland, Italy, Denmark; small amounts in Finland and Sweden
    H15b Italy, Druze, Denmark; H15b1 Denmark, Iran; H15b2 Armenia
    H5-G709A Italy
    H5e1 UK, Serbia, Greece, Denmark, Italy
    H6a1a Volga Ural, icl. Chuvash, Baskirs, Tatars, Maris, Mordvins, old in Caucasus, Turkey; frequent in Scandinavia and Eastern Europe
    H6a1b frequent in Russia, Central Asia, incl. Pashto, Tadjiks, Turkmens, Uzbeks, H6a1 in Altai; Near East and Siberia, H6a1b Shorians, H6a1b Lithuania, Ukraine, Germany; very frequent in the Pontic Steppe

    Undefined T2* is frequent in Tatars, Mordvins, Bashkirs, Komipermjaks, Komizyrjans, Udmurts, Turkmens, Uzbeks
    T2b4h Kazakh
    T2b4e Azeri;
    T2b4 Srubnaya Samara Uvarovka I Russia; Kazakhs, Northern Europe
    T2b4a Russia, Northern Europe; T2b4i, T2b4g Italy; T2b4b, T2b4f Germany, UK; T2b4 T152C Scandinavia, Finland
    T2f1a1 France, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Caucasus; T2f1 Buinsk Tatars
    T1a1 widespread in Europe in general
    T1a1a1 Khanty, Mansi; Khanty T1a1d (16270)
    T1a1b Maris; In Finland T1a1b; T1a1b1 in India, Iran, Azer; T1a1b in Poland, Germany, in Buryatia 16179; in Turkey, Greece;
    T1a1d Khanty, Mansi;
    J1c2 Maris, Tatars, Mordvins, Bashkirs, Chuvash, Komipermjaks, Komizyrjans; J1c2 and J1c2c1 frequent in Finland and Sweden; also found in Iran
    J1c7a Tatars, Ashkenazi jews, Hungary, Germany, Scandinavia, Finland, Belarus, Ukraine
    J1b1a1 Khanty, Mansi, Lipka Tatars; small amounts in Northern Europe; sporadically in India
    J1b1a1-T146C France, J1b1a1e T14470C Iran

    X2c1 Finland, Russia, Armenia, Irland, Denmark, Germany, Caucasia, Spain
    X2f Druze, North Ossetia, Iran, Armenia
    I5a1a Italy, England

    H2a1+146: On Ian Logan site I could find only one match: 23andMe('spcmk4'-2366) H2a1 146C
    T1a10a: rare everywhere, and Ian Logan site did not indicate the origin of 3 samples

    The only typically German haplotypes are U2e2a1a2 which according to Ian Logan is found in Ireland, Denmark and Sweden, and K1c1d and J1c3g (UK, Denmark).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina View Post
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    ... more probably the Vikings who saled back home from Russia with an exotic wife. In this paper the Volga Ural cultural area is omitted and Slavs seem to have mostly Germanic-Scandinavian mtDNA.
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    After all the north-men or Odin's folk supposedly originated from Svithjod north of the Black Sea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    After all the north-men or Odin's folk supposedly originated from Svithjod north of the Black Sea.
    So you mean that they spoke Proto-Germanic there and brought it to Scandinavia?

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    I am not entirely sure where to post it, so I will post here:

    http://sciencenordic.com/new-study-r...ements-england

    New study reignites debate over Viking settlements in England

    February 20, 2017 - 06:45

    A large DNA study in 2015 concluded there is “no clear genetic evidence” of the Danish Viking occupation of England. But thousands of Vikings moved to England, say archaeologists.
    Note: I am not a specialist, but there is one thing that bothers me: Thus far there is not a sinlge ancient Viking genome published(there are some mtDNA, but that's it). It's weird, given that some of the best aDNA labs are in Denmark and Sweden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rozenfeld View Post
    I am not entirely sure where to post it, so I will post here:

    http://sciencenordic.com/new-study-r...ements-england



    Note: I am not a specialist, but there is one thing that bothers me: Thus far there is not a sinlge ancient Viking genome published(there are some mtDNA, but that's it). It's weird, given that some of the best aDNA labs are in Denmark and Sweden.
    What makes things difficult is the Anglo-Saxons were essentially the same people as the later Danish Vikings (not that there were no differences). The descendants of the Danish Vikings in England are going to look like the descendants of the Anglo-Saxons in England, with whom they interbred, so only medieval dna that can be attributed to one or the other is going to settle the issue.

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