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    An interesting article

    http://www.ethnos.gr/article.asp?cat...pubid=64225380

    Does anybody know anything more? When could we expect the results?

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    Certainly is interesting:

    Farmers of Macedonia before 5500 years
    The village residents of the Bronze Age (2500 BC-1850 BC) Xeropigado Valley Kozani were lactose intolerant and therefore could not digest milk. Moreover they had brown eyes and dark skin. The new data is revealed by DNA analysis of skeletal remains found in the Bronze Age cemetery, one of the few of this period investigated systematically in ​​the Macedonian region.

    Ancient DNA opens a new window on archaeological research and analysis provides valuable data, such as that from the Xeropigado cemetery spanning 1,500 square meters, which retained 214 graves and "hosted" 22 dead. More will be known at a workshop organized in the Archaeological Museum of Thessaloniki, on Thursday (30/7), at the exhibition entitled "Ancient DNA. Window to the past and the future ", which will last until May 2016. ...

    An equally important finding for Greece is the recovery of entire genomes of three prehistoric farmers who lived in northern Greece 7500-5500 thousand years ago. These farmers were from Neolithic settlements in Paliampela Kolindrou and Revenia Korinou Pieria and the Kleitos Kozanis.

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    I agree. That is definitely one to look forward to. I hope they publish the dna testing results soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljiljanm View Post
    Does anybody know anything more? When could we expect the results?
    Looks like two related papers were read today at the inaugural conference for the exhibition: http://translate.google.com/translat...w.amth.gr%2Fen

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    Google translation of the Greek article(See here). Can someone who is fluent in Greek look in the Greek media for more information on this Ancient DNA?

    RESEARCH ON DNA 5.500 YEARS
    Farmers of Macedonia before 5500 years

    Lactose intolerance were the village residents of the Bronze Age (2500 BC - 1850 BC ) to position Xeropigado Valley Kozani and therefore could not digest milk.

    Moreover they had brown eyes and dark skin. The new data revealed DNA analysis of skeletal remains found in the cemetery of the Bronze Age , one of the few such periods were investigated systematically in the area of Macedonia.

    The ancient DNA opens a new window on archaeological research and analysis provides valuable data , such as those in the cemetery Xeropigado spanning 1,500 square meters , retained 214 graves and " hosted " 22 dead. More will be known at a workshop organized in the Archaeological Museum of Thessaloniki , on Thursday ( 30/7 ) , at the exhibition entitled " Ancient DNA. Window to the past and the future " , which will last until May 2016 .

    the data

    Distinguished palaiogenetistes from around the world will give complementary information and details on the collection of data and the responses to the DNA in a series of issues.

    " The analysis of ancient DNA gives us the morphological characteristics, pathologies , the functioning of the body and movements of the population of ancient human ," explains the " Nation ", the assistant professor of Physical Anthropology in the Department of History and Ethnology , Democritus University of Thrace scientific responsible of the workshop , Christina Papageorgopoulou. An equally important finding for Greece is the recovery of entire genomes of three prehistoric farmers who lived in northern Greece 7500-5500 thousand years ago . These farmers from Neolithic settlements in Paliampela Kolindrou and Revenia Korinou Pieria and the Kleitos Kozanis so scientists have now concentrated their whole DNA."

    " These data are analyzed and will certainly shed light on the ancestral relationships of the first Europeans and provide a wealth of information related to functional and morphological characteristics ," noted Ms . Papageorgopoulou. The ancient DNA is any amount of DNA that can be recovered from dead organisms skeletons , mummies , prehistoric remains and extinct animals . Through complex and time-consuming laboratory analyzes reconstructed biological history and evolution of ancient and modern populations , humans and animals.

    By studying the scientists can now understand the genetic relationship of modern humans with extinct species of the genus Homo, such as Neanderthals , seek answers to questions such as the introduction of the Neolithic way of production , to study the evolution of morphological characteristics , to determine the degree of relatedness among ancient skeletons to certify the existence of pathologies and longitudinal study on the development of diseases."

    "We can reconstruct a real biography of prehistoric people ," say the scientists .

    RICH VISUAL MATERIAL

    The exhibition " Ancient DNA. Window on the Past and Future " introduces the visitor in a simple and concise manner , without compromising the scientific validity , the study of ancient DNA and its results. With concise way shows all successive stages of palaiogenetikis investigation, ie the collection and sampling of the material, the laboratory analysis , processing and interpretation of data , as well as all categories of results that may be offered.

    It also includes rich visual material, film projection and display of objects used in the laboratory in the process of analysis of ancient DNA. The material is framed by ancient objects discovered during archaeological investigations in the same places in northern Greece from which comes the skeletal material underlying the research of the Democritus University of Thrace ."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krefter View Post
    Google translation of the Greek article(See here). Can someone who is fluent in Greek look in the Greek media for more information on this Ancient DNA?
    I am trying to find out more, but nothing so far. I hope we have more information by tomorrow.

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    I have just found an interview with the greek professor Christina Papageorgopoulou.
    She said that it's impossible to analyze DNA from skeletal remains that have been cremated, so no DNA from Philip B has been studied.
    200 samples have been studied and the results are going to be published soon. No sample from the Amphipolis tomb have been studied due to high cost.

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    If any Y-DNA has been tested I have a good feeling that some haplogroup J2 may show up.

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    I think this is another abstract about the same ancient Greek DNA.
    http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2015/03/live-reports-from-aapa-2015.html

    Chad Rohlfsen was at a conference that discussed this Ancient Greek DNA.
    The origin of the Aegean palatial civilizations from a population genetic perspective

    Unterlander

    Focusing on the Neolithic 6600-3200BCE and the Bronze Age, after 3200BCE
    A place of early urbanization, palaces, coastal settlements, an exchange networks.

    cultural or genetic changes?

    37 sites
    3 Mesolithic
    23 Neolithic
    11 Bronze Age
    ~180 individuals
    ~ are Bronze Age
    mostly low endogenous dna <2%
    mtDNA from 53 samples
    9 Early Neolithic
    23 Middle Neolithic
    21 Bronze Age

    So far, no real genetic difference between North and South Greeks
    fst -.007 pvalue ~ .53?

    Highest genetic differences shows between the early to late Nelithic. Mid/Late Neo to Bronze Age has a low fst

    Fu FS in Bronze age is -13+, showing a population expansion.

    No structure in the Bronze Age, to this point. Possibly Neo to Bronze continuity. Going to do more testing of Bronze Age Cultures and eventual shotgun testing.

    I spoke with her afterwards. She said that they have yet to test the samples against the neighbors. I mentioned the possible Catacomb influence and Bulgarian V2 sample that was Yamnaya like. She said that she will look into it. The project is still in the early stages.

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    Still no news about yesterday's conference, though I've read that it was mainly focused on the collection and process of ancient DNA rather than presentation of results. The interesting parts seem to be "Population Genetics of the Greek Neolithic" and "Insight into the origin of Aegean palatial civilizations from mitochondrial DNA analyses".

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