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    Now, the discovery of a cemetery containing more than 211 individuals and dated from the 11th to 8th centuries B.C. will give archaeologists the opportunity to answer critical questions regarding the origin of the Philistines and how they eventually assimilated into the local culture (...) An international team of researchers is currently conducting DNA research, isotopic analysis, and biological distance studies to determine the origin of the population of the Ashkelon cemetery, as well as their relation to other groups in the area. Since the majority of the burials date to at least two centuries after the initial arrival of the Philistines—which may have involved generations of cultural exchange and intermarriage—direct insights into their original origins may be complicated.
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2...y-sea-peoples/
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    I'm confused... they are claiming that there were Slavs (or Proto Slavs) in the area of modern day Isreal in the Iron age? How certain are they? It sounds like a bold claim coming from one inscription.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent.B View Post
    I'm confused... they are claiming that there were Slavs (or Proto Slavs) in the area of modern day Isreal in the Iron age? How certain are they? It sounds like a bold claim coming from one inscription.
    The journal publishing this rubbish belongs to a vanity press: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scient...rch_Publishing. They publish anything; you just have to pay them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean M View Post
    The journal publishing this rubbish belongs to a vanity press: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scient...rch_Publishing. They publish anything; you just have to pay them.
    I'd heard Slavic Gauls, Slavic Minoans, but not Slavic Phillistines

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    Of course, garbage. It is not without purpose. Is not the first time.

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    crap, pure BS. Skip that perfect waste of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldemar View Post
    The origin and the nature of the Philistines is an enigma for the contemporary historical studies. They appear to have first settled the Aegean area and then, as a Sea People, around 1200 B.C. to have invaded and settled the south part of present Israel. The recent Harvard Leon Levy Expedition excavations in the area of the port of the ancient Philistine Ashkelon recovered 18 jar handles and one inscribed ostracon made from local clay. The ostracon, classified as RN 9794, hosts the inscription 4.5 that is particularly illuminating about the origin and nature of the Philistines. The analysis of all the possible 27 spellings of the inscription reveals one of them which, compared with the present surviving Slavic languages, appears to have the specific meaning of: People come in, we see, or in loose translation: Come and see. The inscription and the considerations developed in this article indicate that the Philistines of the ancient Ashkelon, or the Philistines in general, was a Proto-Slavic tribe or people which spoke a non-survived Proto-Slavic language, which settled in the south part of present Israel in the Iron Age, i.e. well before the VII century A.D. generally accepted period of the Slavs arrival in Eastern Europe.
    http://www.scirp.org/Journal/PaperIn...?PaperID=69428
    Maybe it can be linked with southern migrations of Unietice/Lusatian cultures, like Phrygians. Some others could go further south.
    Phrygian gods Bagaios or Sabazios are related to Slavic Bogu and Subogu.

    Inscription “*IUDI PADI PA WEDIMI” is undoubtedly Slavic. This may be a hint that Unietice/Lusatian cultures were proto-Slavic. We should wait for aDNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolek View Post
    Maybe it can be linked with southern migrations of Unietice/Lusatian cultures, like Phrygians. Some others could go further south.
    Phrygian gods Bagaios or Sabazios are related to Slavic Bogu and Subogu.

    Inscription “*IUDI PADI PA WEDIMI” is undoubtedly Slavic. This may be a hint that Unietice/Lusatian cultures were proto-Slavic. We should wait for aDNA.
    If their depicherment is correct it could have been something like MITIWEPATIPATIUI (TI can be also DI and BA can be PA), if you read it from left to right.

    But their are many questions. Is it really "Cypro-Minoan" syllabary? Do you really see the symbols attached here in the inscription, for example?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean M View Post
    They publish anything; you just have to pay them.
    Who are Giancarlo T. Tomezzoli and Reinhardt S. Stein ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Who are Giancarlo T. Tomezzoli and Reinhardt S. Stein ???
    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...vomai_Bulgaria

    he is a linguist


    IIRC he also supports
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    a 300 pager that Venetic language came to Italy via Finland


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