Pinhasi et al. aDNA Paper (2015)

**Kale** · 06-22-2015, 01:19 AM

The ones in Felix's list look to be these right here...
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2015/06...chnically.html

EDIT: Doesn't look like that sample from Turkmenistan will be much use at all...The one from Turkey is what I'm looking forward to.

**Generalissimo** · 06-22-2015, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by Humanist

What is the source of the Barcin sample?

The Pinhasi-ERC paper from last week. I can't get the link right now, but it was published in PLoS One.

J Man · 06-22-2015, 01:58 AM

The Barcin sample looks like it should be a very good early Neolithic reference sample if we are able to get a decent amount of autosomal DNA from it that is. Does anyone know if it is male or female?

**R.Rocca** · 06-22-2015, 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by Generalissimo

The Pinhasi-ERC paper from last week. I can't get the link right now, but it was published in PLoS One.

This is the paper:
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0129102

The samples are here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/bioproje...rm=PRJNA283950

**jeanL** · 06-22-2015, 05:17 AM

Here is some details of the samples:

Serbia NG21-10 Middle Neolithic 6600 ybp Male 339877 SNPs (Vinča culture)

Vietnam VN48 Neolithic 3800-3500 ybp Male 3468 SNPs

Hungary Hung2*P1 Middle Neolithic 6300-6100 ybp Female 136288 SNPs

Hungary Hung2*P1 Middle Neolithic 6300-6100 ybp Male 209512 SNPs

Turkey Bar100 Pottery Neolithic 8400 ybp Female 237331 SNPs

The sex was not determined in the other samples.

**Anabasis** · 06-22-2015, 05:55 AM

I couldnt reach raw datas! What Felix do with samples now? Does he analysis autosomal or mtDNA/YDNA subsclades?

**rozenfeld** · 06-22-2015, 07:11 AM

It seems there is slight mistake in the paper: they claim to have a sample from Kulubnarti S, Egypt, but the only Kulubnarti I can found is in Sudan, and according to Wikipedia is much younger than 2000 years old: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulubnarti

Map: http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/.../17.204/39.111

**Anabasis** · 06-22-2015, 08:33 AM

In Felix google drive it says that Z1912 - (Negative) for Jordan Ain Ghazal sample.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?...dObmVsN2s#list

**Megalophias** · 06-22-2015, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Anabasis

In Felix google drive it says that Z1912 - (Negative) for Jordan Ain Ghazal sample.[/url]

That seems to be downstream of R1b-U152. So unfortunately tells us nothing.

**Tomenable** · 06-22-2015, 02:07 PM

Downstream of R1b-U152 and 10,000 years old ???

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