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    Thanks to the efforts all round, most of the Allentoft 2015 Y-DNA haplogroups have been pinned down. However some remain unconfirmed, or there are conflicting reads, as you can see in the updated collation: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9...lpycWhvbWx2Zlk

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    Is RISE408 really J2b2-L283? (J2b2f = L283?)
    Paternal - Y-DNA: J2b2* (J-M241) Z2432+ Z2433+ Y978+ (J2b2a2b1*) (Hidden Content ) (YFull: YF02959) (FTDNA Kit B6225), mtDNA: M18a* (FTDNA Kit 329180) (YFull: YF63773)
    Maternal- Y-DNA: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2d5a* L657+ Y7+ (R-Y16494*) (FTDNA Kit 311047) (YFull: YF68408), mtDNA: Hidden Content (FTDNA Kit B6225) (YFull: YF02959) (Mother's Mother's Father: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2* Y7+ Y29+ (R-Y29*) (FTDNA Kit 329181) (YFull: YF65256))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_McNinja View Post
    Is RISE408 really J2b2-L283? (J2b2f = L283?)
    You tell me! That is one of the unconfirmed.

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    RISE416 being J1-Z1842 would make sense, since this marker is quite likely to have been carried by the Hurrians.
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    Well done guys. !
    What are the 'conflicting' candidates for RISE 554 ("IJK"). ?

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    I've looked up >100 SNPs listed approximately at J-L283:

    RISE408 has Z588, Z589, Z590, Z622, and Y1276 at YFull's J-L283 level, and Z590 and Z2515 at YFull's J-Z600 level. It also reports ancestral for Z627, which is also listed at YFull's J-Z600 level. Note that all of these are low quality single reads, and the remainder are no-calls.

    I haven't looked below J-Z600 yet, but I expect it would be ancestral for all, thanks to the ancestral Z627 call.

    http://www.yfull.com/tree/J-L283/

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    Quote Originally Posted by VinceT View Post
    I've looked up >100 SNPs listed approximately at J-L283:

    RISE408 has Z588, Z589, Z590, Z622, and Y1276 at YFull's J-L283 level, and Z590 and Z2515 at YFull's J-Z600 level. It also reports ancestral for Z627, which is also listed at YFull's J-Z600 level. Note that all of these are low quality single reads, and the remainder are no-calls.

    I haven't looked below J-Z600 yet, but I expect it would be ancestral for all, thanks to the ancestral Z627 call.

    http://www.yfull.com/tree/J-L283/
    Can you analyses QLB15D?

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1740513758

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    Quote Originally Posted by VinceT View Post
    I've looked up >100 SNPs listed approximately at J-L283:

    RISE408 has Z588, Z589, Z590, Z622, and Y1276 at YFull's J-L283 level, and Z590 and Z2515 at YFull's J-Z600 level. It also reports ancestral for Z627, which is also listed at YFull's J-Z600 level. Note that all of these are low quality single reads, and the remainder are no-calls.

    I haven't looked below J-Z600 yet, but I expect it would be ancestral for all, thanks to the ancestral Z627 call.

    http://www.yfull.com/tree/J-L283/
    Thank you so much. RISE408 has now been confirmed as J2b2a (Z588+ Z589+ Z590+ Z622+ Y1276+, Z590 + Z2515+, Z627-) in my online table and the collation document, with credit where it is due.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MT1976 View Post
    What are the 'conflicting' candidates for RISE 554 ("IJK"). ?
    RISE554 is one of those with no result given by the authors. I imagine that it will be confirmed as no result, given that Genetiker labelled it IJK, while Felix has it as R-S504 [= R1b1a2a1a1c2b2].
    Last edited by Jean M; 07-07-2015 at 10:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VinceT View Post
    RISE408 has Z588, Z589, Z590, Z622, and Y1276 at YFull's J-L283 level, and Z590 and Z2515 at YFull's J-Z600 level. It also reports ancestral for Z627, which is also listed at YFull's J-Z600 level. Note that all of these are low quality single reads, and the remainder are no-calls.
    I haven't looked below J-Z600 yet, but I expect it would be ancestral for all, thanks to the ancestral Z627 call.
    Maximus Centurion​ described him as J2b-Z600(xYP1,YP6)
    http://forum.molgen.org/index.php/to...html#msg298892
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    he is not Z600* because Z597 unknown result (no read).
    Particularly interested in: DNA/Admixture from Historical Tyrol, Central Alps and related/connected populations; Y-DNA J2a-FGC16096, J2a-L210(xZ482), R1a-M17, R1b-U106; mtDNA J1b1b, J1c1d, U5a2b2, U5b1b1. Projects: Hidden Content , Hidden Content , J2a-PF5197, ISOGG Wiki, GenWiki (german)

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