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    Sample RISE495 (Karasuk culture, local post-Andronovo offshoot in East-Central Asia) came out mtDNA D4j1. Their mutations:

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    73G	263G	489C	750G	1438G	2706G	3010A	3107T	4263G	4883T	5262A	7028T	8414T	9540C	9948A	10398G	10400T	10873C	11696A	11719A	12705T	14130T	14668T	14766T	14769G	14783C	15043A	15301A	15326G	16223T	16260T	16362C
    My HVR1+2 results (differences in red, additions +):

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    16223T 16362C 16519C	73G 263G 309.1C 315.1C 489C
    Excluding 309.1 and 315.1, full match as far as the other polymorphism sites are concerned.* I might just be looking at the results of my distant maternal ancestor...

    * Predicted D4j5 via James Lick's mtDNA predictor, therefore not confirmed yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krefter View Post
    Does anyone have access to the paper?
    Hi, yes I do. And if anyone needs access to any papers I can get it through my UK academic institution. So just let me know. I can also email it as a PDF.
    I'm getting through this thread slowly, so just PM me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard A. Rocca View Post
    German Corded Ware sample RISE434 (2880-2630 BC) is at least R1b1a2. He has two known M269 equivalents in PF6508 and PF6527 and is also positive for Y429, which Thomas Krahn has as the same level as L23. I'll try to keep looking at the sample to see if anything else comes up downstream.
    And an even bigger development...the sample is also Z2103- and also PF6543- (an L11 equivalent). Unfortunately no read at L51 or equivalent SNPs. So, if this is an equivalent M269+L23+Z2103-L11- sample, it could very well be "the" sample R1b folks have been waiting for for years. The upper range age of this sample makes it several hundred years older than any Bell Beaker in Bavaria and about contemporary with the absolute oldest Bell Beaker materials found anywhere. The site's location in Bavaria one mile from the Danube makes it an even more intriguing sample.
    Last edited by R.Rocca; 06-12-2015 at 04:52 AM.
    Paternal: R1b-U152 >> L2 >> FGC10543 >> PR5365, Pietro Rocca, b. 1559, Agira, Sicily, Italy
    Maternal: H4a1-T152C!, Maria Coto, b. ~1864, Galicia, Spain
    Mother's Paternal: J1+ FGC4745/FGC4766+ PF5019+, Gerardo Caprio, b. 1879, Caposele, Avellino, Campania, Italy
    Father's Maternal: T2b-C150T, Francisca Santa Cruz, b.1916, Garganchon, Burgos, Spain
    Paternal Great (x3) Grandfather: R1b-U106 >> L48 >> CTS2509, Filippo Ensabella, b.~1836, Agira, Sicily, Italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard A. Rocca View Post
    And an even bigger development...the sample is also Z2103- and also PF6543- (an L11 equivalent). Unfortunately no read at L51 or equivalent SNPs. So, if this is an equivalent M269+L23+Z2103-L11- sample, it could very well be "the" sample R1b folks have been waiting for for years. The upper range age of this sample makes it several hundred years older than any Bell Beaker in Bavaria and about contemporary with the absolute oldest Bell Beaker materials found anywhere. The site's location in Bavaria one mile from the Danube makes it an even more intriguing sample.
    Can you place your work with Y DNA Allentoft in some-type of document/file/spreadsheet? It's hard to keep track of your work.

    You could do something similar to this.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=2120948378

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard A. Rocca View Post
    And an even bigger development...the sample is also Z2103- and also PF6543- (an L11 equivalent). Unfortunately no read at L51 or equivalent SNPs. So, if this is an equivalent M269+L23+Z2103-L11- sample, it could very well be "the" sample R1b folks have been waiting for for years. The upper range age of this sample makes it several hundred years older than any Bell Beaker in Bavaria and about contemporary with the absolute oldest Bell Beaker materials found anywhere. The site's location in Bavaria one mile from the Danube makes it an even more intriguing sample.
    What about Bell Beaker R1b? Isn't it so far 2/2 R1b-U152?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krefter View Post
    What about Bell Beaker R1b? Isn't it so far 2/2 R1b-U152?
    I think the significance of this is that it is that it is an L11 equivalent, it is earlier (in Bavaria when the very earliest Bell Beakers are coming into being), and it is close to the Danube, which is at least suggestive of an east-west trajectory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by everest59 View Post
    Armenian 397 is giving me too much of a noise. Figures given the SNP count:

    14.62% S-Indian
    34.51% Baloch
    41.86% Caucasian
    5.53% NE-Euro
    0.00% SE-Asian
    0.91% Siberian
    0.00% NE-Asian
    0.00% Papuan
    2.48% American
    0.08% Beringian
    0.00% Mediterranean
    0.00% SW-Asian
    0.00% San
    0.00% E-African
    0.00% Pygmy
    0.00% W-African

    I am doing 423 next, as it is a bigger file. Should get rid of the noise.

    This particular result (if correct) here looks more Iranian than anything else and is even slightly more eastern and less Southern(Southwest Asian) shifted than modern Iranians!

    RISE416 sample from Bronze Age Armenia appears roughly like an even mix of Basque and Adygei/Lezgians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Mc View Post
    I think the significance of this is that it is that it is an L11 equivalent, it is earlier (in Bavaria when the very earliest Bell Beakers are coming into being), and it is close to the Danube, which is at least suggestive of an east-west trajectory.
    Put another way, R1b wasn't sitting around in Portugal when the Bell Beaker cultural package came into being; it was in modern day Bavaria, not too far away from where we find other R1b Beaker people a hundred years later. Their is a continuity of some sort going on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterRoshi View Post
    This particular result (if correct) here looks more Iranian than anything else and is even slightly more eastern and less Southern(Southwest Asian) shifted than modern Iranians!

    RISE416 sample from Bronze Age Armenia appears roughly like an even mix of Basque and Adygei/Lezgians.
    If the S. Indian and SW Asian scores were swapped round, this would be remarkably similar with the Behar et al. Iranian dataset results at Harappa.

    We'll have to see how the official genotype files look, whenever they're published. I suspect a lot of the inferences being made in this thread won't hold up.

    The uniparental marker results are quite interesting. Yamnaya appears to be largely defined by mtDNA T2 and U5. On the other hand, there's a surprisingly high frequency of mtDNA J2 among Afanasievo. I'm also surprised to see Afanasievo was, as far as this study permits, fully West Eurasian maternally (J2, T2, U5). If the archaeological data is anything to go by, I'd expect the likes of mtDNA A, C, D and/or Z to make an appearance with more samples in keeping with previous data across the steppe zone.

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