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  1. #201
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    heres a comparison between the qizilbash/iranian individuals eurogenes k12 and k12b with mine
    Qizilbash
    k12
    Population
    South Asian 26.93%
    Caucasus 37.84%
    Southwest Asian 3.33%
    North Amerindian + Arctic 0.40%
    Siberian 3.70%
    Mediterranean 2.76%
    East Asian 4.83%
    West African 0.12%
    Volga-Ural 11.02%
    South Baltic -
    Western European 1.26%
    North Sea 7.80%

    K12b

    Population
    Western European 6.37%
    Siberian 4.57%
    East African -
    West Central Asian 24.37%
    South Asian 17.73%
    West African 0.26%
    Caucasus 24.22%
    Finnish 1.63%
    Mediterranean 4.24%
    Southwest Asian 2.97%
    North European 8.08%
    East Asian 5.56%

    mine k12

    Population
    South Asian 37.61%
    Caucasus 37.32%
    Southwest Asian 1.91%
    North Amerindian + Arctic 1.37%
    Siberian 1.92%
    Mediterranean 0.66%
    East Asian -
    West African 0.26%
    Volga-Ural 7.38%
    South Baltic 1.90%
    Western European 2.64%
    North Sea 7.02%

    k12b

    Population
    Western European 7.43%
    Siberian 2.97%
    East African -
    West Central Asian 30.27%
    South Asian 25.50%
    West African 0.20%
    Caucasus 20.16%
    Finnish 0.69%
    Mediterranean 1.81%
    Southwest Asian 2.06%
    North European 8.06%
    East Asian 0.84%

    the main difference between me and him is the extra south asian that i have has gone into his east eurasian components.

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    Huh.

    I just read up on the Qizilbash after adding that person to the spreadsheets. They have a lot of East Eurasian, even some Southeast Asian (the latter could appear as ASE, Barnacle). It seems like the perfect admixture candidate for some of the "foreign" admixture contribution that seems to appear in some North Indian Muslims (like "Mughals").

    How many Shi'ite groups like them were in the subcontinent?

    Edit: Also, many of the Pakistani Shi'ites whose admixture results I've seen often show signs of mixed ancestry. I always figured it was just Iranian, but they have a bunch of East Asian often too.
    Last edited by Dr_McNinja; 07-04-2015 at 09:13 PM.
    Paternal - Y-DNA: J2b2* (J-M241) Z2432+ Z2433+ Y978+ (J2b2a2b1*) (Hidden Content ) (YFull: YF02959) (FTDNA Kit B6225), mtDNA: M18a* (FTDNA Kit 329180) (YFull: YF63773)
    Maternal- Y-DNA: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2d5a* L657+ Y7+ (R-Y16494*) (FTDNA Kit 311047) (YFull: YF68408), mtDNA: Hidden Content (FTDNA Kit B6225) (YFull: YF02959) (Mother's Mother's Father: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2* Y7+ Y29+ (R-Y29*) (FTDNA Kit 329181) (YFull: YF65256))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_McNinja View Post
    Huh.

    I just read up on the Qizilbash after adding that person to the spreadsheets. They have a lot of East Eurasian, even some Southeast Asian (the latter could appear as ASE, Barnacle). It seems like the perfect admixture candidate for some of the "foreign" admixture contribution that seems to appear in some North Indian Muslims (like "Mughals").

    How many Shi'ite groups like them were in the subcontinent?
    I suppose quit a few since there is a large Shia community in Pakistan and India, rockman being one of them. Although not quite like the qizilbash since I read up on them, and they went as far pakistan( then Afghanistan or part of durrani empire), though not into the subcontinent. Shia groups like nawabs from nishapur is a much better candidate Imo.
    As for the individual, he told me both sides of his family call themselves qizilbash, however both of his parents have Tajik admixture, not surprised since they live in such a cosmopolitan city. Funny thing, one of my close friends didn't even know he was qizilbash until I told him, both of his parents were Shia, his mother being half Iranian. seems there has been s influx of recent Persian migrants from further west into Afghanistan.

    The east Eurasian among the Shia population of Pakistanis could probably be explained by the Mughals, who were Turkic, so they must've had some East Eurasian admixture. That or hazaras.
    Last edited by The Barnacle; 07-04-2015 at 09:20 PM.

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    [ADMIN] Thread closed and member banned due to the following:

    - This user posts their 'results' on 26th June

    - A staff member (DMXX) posted 'coincidentally' (their words) similar results differing in choice scores on 27th June

    - This user denies these results are theirs on 27th June, citing Gedmatch technical problems (for no apparent reason)

    - A forum regular (Kurd) observes this user's results are not adding up to 100% despite being Gedmatch generated on 28th June, this user cites Gedmatch technical problems as responsible here too

    - A staff member (DMXX) points out growing inconsistencies with this user's accounts on 28th June

    - In the ensuing period, this user repeatedly ignores several Gedmatch screenshot requests

    - Finally, in July 3rd, this user shares Gedmatch screenshots that are fully identical to those 'coincidental' results posted by DMXX and differ in those choice components with the first set of results

    Therefore, this user had initially doctored their original results and repeatedly lied to the community in an attempt to continually justify them. This is an unacceptable abuse of the community's trust and time. We resoundingly consider this a breech of section 4.4 of our Terms of Service.

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