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    "For all who are members of, or interested in Y-DNA haplogroup J2, made up of paternal-line descendants who share the M172 mutation. J2 is commonly found among peoples of the Mediterranean and northern Middle East. Major branches are J2a and J2b."
    GenealogyWise - Haplogroup J2.

    "Haplogroup J2 among Jews has been erroneously interpreted in the past as exclusively Israelite or Middle Eastern in origin. Among Ashkenazim, J2 occurs among 23.2% of the population, while Sephardim have 28.6% (Semino et al. 2004). While these percentages are nearly identical to Iraqi (22.4%) and Lebanese (25%) groups, they are also comparable to Greek (20.6%), Georgian (26.7%), Albanian (19.6%), Italian (20-29%), and to a lesser extent, French Basque (13.6%) populations (Semino et al. 2004)."
    A reassessment of Jewish DNA Evidence.

    "In Bosnia-Herzegovina Y chromosomes belonging to J are found mainly in the Bosniacs who, interestingly, harbour almost all the known J sub-clades (Semino et al. 2004). These are: J-M267, which has been associated with the Arab expansions; J-M92, which suggests genetic links between Anatolia and southern Italy; J-M67, which is frequent in the Caucasus; and finally J-M102, which shows frequency peaks in the southern Balkans and central-southern Italy. The last, however, appears to be more represented in the Serbs (6.2%). Thus, overall a higher extent of gene flow could have occurred in the Bosniacs, while the Croats, in whom a single undifferentiated J-M172 Y chromosome was encountered, were probably the group in which genetic drift and founder events played the most important role, as already suggested by the extremely high frequency of I-P37."
    The Peopling of Modern Bosnia-Herzegovina: Y-chromosome Haplogroups in the Three Main Ethnic Groups.

    "Another relatively more recent mode for J2's entry into some parts of Europe from the Mediterranean areas could have been the Roman Legions and Roman settlements."
    Genetic makeup of the Balkans.

    "In this study, we examine, for the first time, the Y-chromosome constitution of the general Serbian population. A total of 103 individuals were sampled and their DNA analyzed for 104 Y-chromosome bi-allelic markers and 17 associated STR loci. Our results indicate that approximately 58% of Serbian Y-chromosomes (I1-M253, I2a-P37.2 and R1a1a-M198) belong to lineages believed to be pre-Neolithic. On the other hand, the signature of putative Near Eastern Neolithic lineages, including E1b1b1a1-M78, G2a-P15, J1-M267, J2-M172 and R1b1a2-M269 accounts for 39% of the Y-chromosome."
    High levels of Paleolithic Y-chromosome lineages characterize Serbia.

    "The genetic mutation founding the J2b subclade is thought to have originated in Greece (or possibly in Anatolia) and to correspond roughly to the ancient Greek and Roman spheres of influence (sources: Eupedia and Romans at Stonehenge from standing stones to cosmic pillars)."
    Is there a deep history Sumerian connection or Near Eastern layer to Japanese prehistory?

    "The J2-M172 lineages likely entered China during the eastward migration of Central Asians."
    Y-chromosome distributions among populations in Northwest China identify significant contribution from Central Asian pastoralists and lesser influence of western Eurasians.

    "We show that the majority of the CAS- and WE-related genetic contribution to NEAS occurred much earlier than the time of ancient Silk Road. However, in the NEAS populations, the impact of the ancient Silk Road can also be reflected by the sporadic appearance of the minor CSA- and WE-related haplogroups, such as E-SRY4064, C5-M356, I-M170, J2a2*-M67, Jab2-M241, and T-M70, which had not have enough time to accumulate within-haplogroup genetic diversity."
    Extended Y Chromosome Investigation Suggests Postglacial Migrations of Modern Humans into East Asia via the Northern Route.

    "It should be noted that J2 reaches its highest rate of frequency in Han China at 2.86%. It is speculated that this frequency is due to "trade relations along the Silk Road" ["Haplogroups J/J2"]. It appears that the incidences in both Okinawa and China are unrelated, since the Chinese/Honshu affinity does not demonstrate a significant incidence on the Japanese mainland, the population of which is demonstrably higher than that of Okinawa."
    The Genetic Affinity Between Cretans and Okinawans.

    "In western China, in the Xinjiang region, the population, while east Asian, has sometimes European characteristics. Genetic testings have corroborated the presence of west Eurasian genes in the population (for instance, subclades of the Y-DNA haplogroups R1a, R1b and J2, genetic signatures frequently found in Europe (and west Eurasian mtDNA haplogroups as well)."
    Through the mist of the past - Xinjiang.

    "As genetic study of man (R1a, J2, O2a), cow, mouse, pig, goat, rice and barley all gravitate towards India, there should be no doubt now that farming and Aryan languages originated and spread from India."
    The First Civilization of the World.

    "Another major lineage within the J clade is J2-M172,which ranges from 0 to 30% in Europe. In our Andalusian samples, this lineage occurs at frequencies of 5–6%, whereas in other Iberian populations, J2 varies from 3% (in the Basque area) to 15% (in southern Portugal). In Sicily, J2 is one of the most represented Y-chromosome J sub-haplogroups, being found at frequencies of 15% on the eastern side and 7% on the western side of the island."
    Searching the Peopling of the Iberian Peninsulafrom the Perspective of Two Andalusian Subpopulations: A Study Based on Y-chromosome Haplogroups J and E. om_the_Perspective_of_Two_Andalusian_Subpopulation s

    "Given the particular phylogeographical pattern of J2a across the Mediterranean as well as in Middle Eastern and western-central Asian populations, some authors have interpreted this scenario as being associated, at least in part, with the spread of agriculture. However, others have proposed that the J2a1b lineage might have emerged in the Aegean area, possibly during the population expansion of the Greek world, including the European coast of the Black Sea."
    Searching the Peopling of the Iberian Peninsulafrom the Perspective of Two Andalusian Subpopulations: A Study Based on Y-chromosome Haplogroups J and E. om_the_Perspective_of_Two_Andalusian_Subpopulation s

    "The distribution pattern of J2b within Europe is parallel to that observed for E-V13. Both of these account for more than one-fourth of the chromosomes currently found in the southern Balkans, highlighting the strong demographic impact of the expansion in the area, particularly during the Bronze Age."
    Searching the Peopling of the Iberian Peninsulafrom the Perspective of Two Andalusian Subpopulations: A Study Based on Y-chromosome Haplogroups J and E. om_the_Perspective_of_Two_Andalusian_Subpopulation s

    "Parys Mountain is one of only three sites in Wales which have evidence of copper mining during the Bronze and Roman Ages."
    BBC News - DNA test to prove Bronze Age link.

    "This type of genetic make-up is usually found in the eastern Mediterranean which made us think that there might have been strong connections between north-east Wales and this part of Europe somewhere in the past."
    BBC News - 'Extraordinary' genetic make-up of north-east Wales men.

    "With respect to the Romans and the Visigoths, Romans appear not differ much genetically from the Iberians, particularly in relation to the Y chromosome, such that the gene frequencies of the population would not have changed much due to these invaders."
    Searching the Peopling of the Iberian Peninsulafrom the Perspective of Two Andalusian Subpopulations: A Study Based on Y-chromosome Haplogroups J and E. om_the_Perspective_of_Two_Andalusian_Subpopulation s
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    "The present study proposes that the majority of the genetic haplogroups present at this date (2300 BC) in Jutland would have been I1 (mostly I1-M253, but an unknown percentage of the I-M223 variety) and R-P312* with R-U106 plus a sprinkling of R1a1-M17; and a modicum (e.g., 6% each) of E3b-M78 and J2-M172 representing migrants who may have arrived with the early agriculturalists from the Balkans."
    The Cimbri of Denmark, the Norse and Danish Vikings, and Y-DNA Haplogroup R-S28/U152 - (Hypothesis A).

    "The project contains people from 4 distinct haplogroups. The first group (oldest SNP) is haplogroup I2b1 with ancient origins in the NorthWestern region of Europe known as Fennoscandia consisting of Norway, Sweden and Finland. The second oldest haplogroup represented is J2, whose origins are believed to be about 18,000 years old in an area around the current Asia-Europe border."
    Cloud DNA Project.

    "De verdeling der hoofdhaplogroepen met ruwweg hun plaats van ontstaan en de afgelegde weg: R1b: 145 57,31 % directe afstammelingen van de Cro-Magnons. I1: 030 11,86 % Balkan, Centraal Europa, Scandinavië. I2: 027 10,67 % Caucasus, Balkan, gebied van ex-Joegoslavië. E1: 016 06,32 % Noord-Afrika, Middellandse Zeegebied. J2: 011 04,35 % Mesopotamië, Feniciërs, Grieken, Zuid-Italië, (Romeinen)."
    Familiekunde Vlaanderen - Jaarverslag 2009. (Dutch)

    "Previous Y-chromosome genetic studies of Phoenician colonization have demonstrated that haplogroup J2 frequency was amplified in regions containing the Phoenician colonies of Iberia and North Africa in comparison to areas not containing Phoenician colonies."
    The coming of the Greeks to Provence and Corsica: Y-chromosome models of archaic Greek colonization of the western Mediterranean.

    "This blog is dedicated to those who carry the J2 "Y" DNA Haplogroup, with a focus on J2a4h2, also known as J-L25. Our "Y" Chromosome is inherited from father to son. Our paternal ancestors will also have the same signature. "J2 originated in northern Mesopotamia, and spread westward to Anatolia and southern Europe, and eastward to Persia and India. J2 is related to the Ancient Etruscans, (Minoan) Greeks, southern Anatolians, Phoenicians, Assyrians and Babylonians."
    J2a4h Blog - J2a4h2 YHaplogroup J-L25 DNA.

    "Sicily is an island which had well-documented and not insignificant settlements by both Greeks and Phoenicians. Moreover, these settlements were geographically divided: Greeks in the East, Phoenicians in the West. It is in the East that J2 has its highest frequency, and not in the Phoenician West."
    Dienekes Anthropology Blog, 2008.

    "From these comparisons, we found that haplogroup J2, in general, and six Y-STR haplotypes, in particular, exhibited a Phoenician signature that contributed > 6% to the modern Phoenician-influenced populations examined. Our methodology can be applied to any historically documented expansion in which contact and noncontact sites can be identified."
    Identifying Genetic Traces of Historical Expansions: Phoenician Footprints in the Mediterranean.

    "Many people new to Genetic Genealogy think the J2 haplogroup is synonymous with having male Jewish ancestry. One should note that having a J2 haplogroup assignment does not necessarily indicate Jewish ancestry. The J2 haplogroup is far more ancient than the Jewish religion and is found in many lines with Mediterranean region ancient ancestry. Another relatively more recent mode for J2's entry into some parts of Europe from the Mediterranean areas could have been the Roman Legions and Roman settlements." - Y-DNA Haplogroups.

    "In deze studie wordt een tot nu toe niet bekende concentratie van de haplogroepen J in oostelijk Brabant aangetroffen. Het betreft hier voornamelijk J2 en oude, gevestigde families. Het is niet onmogelijk dat hier sprake is van families van nazaten van ´Romeinse´soldaten. Ook in het grensgebied van Engeland en Schotland is een concentratie van J2 families gevonden. In dat gebied zijn ook resten van tempels van de Iraanse god Mitras bekend en blijkt er een boogschuttereenheid uit het Midden/Oosten gelegerd geweest te zijn. Romeinse aanwezigheid in het land van Cuijck en aan de randen van de Peel (de naam is afkomstig van de naam die de Romeinen aan het gied gaven: Locus Paludosus ofwel moerassige streek) is bekend, zoals ook landmetingen van militairen die zich er gevestigd hadden en landbouw bedreven."

    Project Genetische Genealogie in Nederland. (Dutch)

    "Het eerste jaar heeft tal van verrassingen opgeleverd. Via de gevonden DNA-profielen konden een aantal families aan elkaar gekoppeld worden, die voor het project nog niet van een onderlinge band wisten. Verrassend was voor tal van deelnemers ook de diepere oorsprong van de familie. Een oorsprong die bijvoorbeeld mogelijk te vinden is bij de zich in onze gebieden gevestigd hebbende soldaten uit het Romeinse leger."
    Heemkundekring Weerderheem - Project Genetische Genealogie in Nederland. (Dutch)

    "Nog een aardigheidje voor Oost-Brabant: daar is een relatieve concentratie van haplogroep J gevonden. Volgens genetisch genealogen zijn die mensen waarschijnlijk nazaten van de oude Romeinen, gelegerd in Noviomagus (Nijmegen) of rond Locus Paludosus (De Peel)."
    Eindhovens Dagblad - Veel DNA komt uit Spanje en Scandinavië. (Dutch)

    "Uit haplogroep J onstond zo'n 10.000 geleden de haplogroep J2 (M172) die een uitloper naar Italië heeft. Nu blijkt dat er in N.O.-Brabant een cluster J2 zit, zo tegen de Maas aan. Verder is er een cluster J2 te vinden bij de muur van Hadrianus in Engeland. Een snelle conclusie is dan dat deze J2-voorouders van Nevenzel en Volkerink afstammen van (huur)soldaten uit het Romeinse leger, die aan de limes waren gelegerd."
    De haplogroep van de probandi Nevenzel en Volkerink. (Dutch)

    "Een van de vermoedens daarbij is dat de Romeinen groepen uit het Midden Oosten naar het grensgebied van het Romeinse Rijk brachten. Deze hogere percentages van deze groepen zouden hierdoor veroorzaakt kunnen worden. In het boek "zonen van Adam in Nederland" wordt dit als volgt geformuleerd: In deze studie wordt een tot nu toe niet bekende concentratie van de haplogroepen J in oostelijk Brabant aangetroffen. Het betreft hier voornamelijk J2 en oude, gevestigde families. Het is niet onmogelijk dat hier sprake is van families van nazaten van Romeinse soldaten. Ook in het grensgebied van Engeland en Schotland is een concentratie van J2 families gevonden. In dat gebied zijn ook resten van tempels van de Iraanse god Mitras bekend en blijkt er een boogschuttereenheid uit het Midden Oosten gelegerd geweest te zijn. Romeinse aanwezigheid in het land van Cuijck en aan de randen van de Peel (de naam is afkomstig van de naam die de Romeinen aan het gebied gaven: Locus Paludosus ofwel moerassige streek) is bekend, zoals ook landmetingen van militairen die zich er gevestigd hadden en landbouw bedreven." - Pennings Genografie. (Dutch)
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    "Cruciani et al.’s E-V13 and J2-M12 coalescence times bear a striking similarity to carbon-14-based date calculations for certain archaeological sites in the Maritsa river valley and its tributaries, near the city of Nova Zagora, Bulgaria (Nilolova, 2002). These sites are associated directly with the proto-Thracian culture of the southern Balkans that came to dominate the region during the first millennium BCE. Sites surveyed included Ezero, Yunatsite, Dubene-Sarovka and Plovdiv-Nebet Tepe, all of which had deep associations with the developing EBA proto-Thracian culture of the region."
    Haplogroup E3b1a2 as a Possible Indicator of Settlement in Roman Britain by Soldiers of Balkan Origin.

    "The congruence between frequency distributions, shape of the networks, pair-wise haplotypic differences and coalescent estimates point to a single evolutionary event at the basis of the distribution of haplogroups E-V13 and J-M12 within Europe, a finding never appreciated before."
    Phylogeography of Y Chromosomal haplogroups as reporters of Neolithic and post-Neolithic population processes in the Mediterranean area.

    "It is important to note that at least four additional YDNA markers may have arrived with the Romans. What have been described as the Balkan group (E-V13), the Ancient Caucasians (G-S314), the Herdsman-Farmers (J-M172 – and a sub-group of this, M67, looks particularly Italian) and the Anatolian marker (R1b-M269*), when taken together, potentially add another 2.3 million Englishmen and Welshmen who could trace their fatherlines to the veterans of the II Augusta, the IX Hispana, the XIV Gemina, the XX Valeria Victrix and the other Italians who crossed to Britain in their wake."
    BritainsDNA Press Releases - BritainsDNA finds the Lost Legions.

    "Moffat said his colleagues had also discovered DNA originating from Roman-period Illyria, the area occupied by modern Croatia, which may relate to Roman occupation of lowland Scotland."
    The Guardian - Scotland DNA Study Project.

    "Of course, there are more ways for J2b2 members to have spread to the areas highlighted on the J2b2 heatmap as being suggested in this paper, it is interesting however to see how easily all these regions are connected through Greek, Macedonian and/or Thracian mythology, history and migrations."
    Analysis of the J2b2 M241 Geno 2.0 Heatmap. Comparing historical data with heatmap hotspots. eatmap.docx

    "Haplogroup J is mostly found in South-East Europe, especially in central and southern Italy, Greece and Romania. It is also common in France, and in the Middle East. It is related to the Ancient Romans, Greeks and Phoenicians (J2), as well as the Arabs and Jews (J1). Subclades J2a and J2a1b1 are found mostly in Greece, Anatolia and southern Italy, and are associated with the Ancient Greeks."
    Romanian History and Culture.

    "This lineage originated in the northern portion of the Fertile Crescent where it later spread throughout central Asia, the Mediterranean, and south into India. J2 is found in Britain, but rarely. It is most common in Eastern European countries, leading to speculation that it is either from gypsy background or, possibly, from Eastern European soldiers stationed in Britain during the Roman occupation in the first three centuries AD."
    Scotland DNA Project.

    "J2 has been traced back to the area between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea that comprises territory in northwestern Iraq and Iran, eastern Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia. One theory offered for the presence of J2 in northern England is the presence of Roman auxiliary soldiers stationed on Hadrian's Wall. It has been suggested that the original J2 ancestor of our Robson member may have been a Sarmatian horseman in the Roman legions."
    Robson/Robeson/Robison Family DNA Project.

    "The very name "Van Santen" means "from" or "of" Santen. The only Santen found (now known as "Xanten") is an ancient walled German town with a strong Roman history, at one time strategically located on the Rhine river (the river has since altered course somewhat). My genealogy is well-documented to the early 1500's from where my earliest known ancestor had settled by the 16th Century, near the mouth of the same Rhine river, and the furthest west one could have gone short of crossing the channel to England."
    Van Santen DNA Project (Haplogroup J2).

    "J2 - This haplogroup originated during the Neolithic in Central Asia, and spread across the Mediterranean and the Middle East. It may have been brought to Britain by prehistoric farmers, Greek or Phoenician traders and Sephardic Jews among the Normans and the Flemish - as well as by Roman troops and settlers."
    Elliot (And border receivers) DNA Project.

    "Research conducted by the administrators of the Border Reivers DNA Project has identified numerous haplotypes in persons of British descent that show Haplotype 35 markers. Moreover, most of these haplotypes appear to originate from areas of Britain near the Antonine Wall, Hadrian's Wall and other places of Roman fortification or settlement. These areas include Galloway, Dumfries, Ayrshire and The Borders in Scotland, and Cumbria, Yorkshire, Lancashire, Shropshire and Staffordshire in England. Many of the Roman troops stationed in these areas came from Southeastern Europe or Western Asia. They included Sarmatians, Dacians, Goths, Syrians, Mesopotamians, Thracians and Anatolians. The Capelli study has shown that these areas also exhibit higher than average frequencies of haplogroups E3b and J2, neither of which is native to Britain. E3b is found most commonly in North Africa, Iberia, the Mediterranean and the Near East, and J2 occurs most frequently in the Near East, the Mediterranean and Western Asia. The fact that all three groups - E3b, J2 and Haplotype 35 - have a similar origin in territories of the Roman Empire, and occur at comparable frequencies in parts of Britain with a known history of Roman settlement, suggests that they arrived in Britain through the same means."
    Elliot (And border receivers) DNA Project (Haplogroup J2) - Haplogroup R1b (Haplotype 35).

    "In human genetics, Haplotype 35, also called ht35 or the Armenian Modal Haplotype, is a Y chromosome haplotype of Y-STR microsatellite variations, associated with the Haplogroup R1b. It is characterized by DYS393=12 (as opposed to the Atlantic Modal Haplotype, another R1b haplotype, which is characterized by DYS393=13). The members of this haplotype are found in high numbers in Anatolia and Armenia, with smaller numbers throughout Central Asia, the Middle East, the Balkans, the Caucus Mountains, and in Jewish populations. They are also present in Britain in areas that were found to have a high concentration of Haplogroup J, suggesting they arrived together, perhaps through Roman soldiers." - Haplotype 35.

    "Haplogroup J2, the paternal line, lands her son's ancestors smack dab in Italy. Aligning with family history, once the Y chromosome arrived they stayed in the neighborhood. See the blue route coming out of Africa? The northern branch ends close to what would become 15,000 years later — Rome, Italy (the boot is highlighted). Notes from the Genographic Project say that "J2" pioneered the shift from gathering to farming, kick starting the Neolithic Revolution."
    DNA Portrait for a Science Cheerleader.

    "In our present times modern technology has contributed to our search for origins and relationships. The Clan has undertaken a DNA project to determine relationships among members. As of this writing, September 2011, a total of 77 males with the Curtin surname have been tested to varying degrees. Those tested are divided according to test results into "haplogroups," which may be likened to branches of the vast tree of mankind. The preponderance (75) of those tested fell into one of two haplogroups. Of these, 28 are in Haplogroup R1b1a2, which originated in the in the middle east, is the most common group in Western Europe, and includes 80% of the people in the British Isles. However, this group of our members includes descendents of both Clare and Cork Curtins. The majority of those tested (47), who are descended from Curtins in the Feale valley, in Cork, Kerry and Limerick, fall into haplogroup J2."
    Curtin Clan - Curtin, Origin and History of the Name.

    "Thus we find that our two famous political Curtin/MacCurtain men are from two different haplogroups. Thomas MacCurtain, Lord Mayor of Cork, was in the R1b1 group, while John Curtin, Prime Minister of Australia, was from a Feale Valley J2 group."
    Curtin Clan - Curtin, Origin and History of the Name.
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    "Like many Americans, Nick Donofrio, IBM Executive Vice President, Innovation and Technology, knew his ancestors came from somewhere else. In his case, his grandparents came from Southern Italy to New York City. What he didn't know was that their forebears had settled in remote mountains in the Middle East 10,000 to 20,000 years ago."I never would have imagined the results," Nick says. "They're really kind of amazing." Analysis of Nick's DNA found he belonged in the Haplogroup J2."
    Nick Donofrio - IBM Executive Vice President, Innovation and Technology.

    "John Lorimer Worden of the U.S. Navy, commanding officer of U.S.S. Monitor in the Battle of Hampton Roads, first historical confrontation between iron made ships, as member of main lineage of Worden family, is supposed to belong to Y-DNA haplogroup J2b2."
    List of haplogroups of historical and famous figures. es

    "The bulk of J2 may have been brought to Britain by mercenaries recruited by the Romans."
    Family Banks DNA Project.

    "We now have two members of Haplogroup J1 and 6 members of Haplogroup J2 in the Fox Poject. This is a Mediterranean Haplogroup but exists all over Europe to some extent. The Romans are thought to have brought this Haplogroup to Britain."
    Fox FamilytreeDNA Project.

    "In Europe, the largest J2b populations are in Greece, Albania and Italy. This haplogroup is rare in Britain where it could represent remnants of eastern Mediterranean troops stationed on the island during the Roman occupation."
    Cotton/Cotten DNA Project.

    "The Greek and Phoenician presence also brought J2 into France and of course the Roman period also would have been a major contributor of Haplogroup J2 into what is today, France. So although, rare, Haplogroup J2 can be found in local populations throughout France and Spain."
    Dugas Family.
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    "One coat of arms firm claims that the Judkins actually originated in Suffolk, England in far ancient times. This is where the celtic Coritani tribe of Rutland, Leiceister & Lincolnshire originated so this would preclude a Scottish origin prior to 1500 if the Judkins/Blackard J2 DNA type is linked to the Coritani rather than Romans."
    Blackard Family History Blog.

    "The Mediterranean and Middle Eastern group consists of the the two Es, the G and the two J2s. Whit Athey and others have theorized that this group is associated with the Neolithic spread of agriculture from the Middle East into Europe. On the other hand, a more recent paper by Steven C. Bird argues for a Roman origin for J2 and E3b at least."
    Francis Surname Project.

    "Sometime prior to that a Bretz ancestor must have come into Germany from the south, from Italy or Greece. Some researchers have suggested a family connection to Fabius Bretius, a Roman General, who came from the districts of Capua and Taranto in southern Italy to the town Trier, Germany around 224. Whether this connection is genuine or not, and it is impossible to know for sure, perhaps Roman conquests did bring Bretz DNA north 1,800 years ago as they did with so many other things. For some additional thoughts on the possible Latin origins of the family, also read the Genealogia Bretius."

    Bretz Family, Haplogroup J2.

    "Hoewel we tussen de periode van het ontstaan van onze haplogroep/subclade en het begin van de stamreeks de Sanders familiegeschiedenis niet met absolute zekerheid kunnen vaststellen ben ik van mening dat mede door het grote aantal indirecte aanwijzingen een redelijk nauwkeurig beeld van onze voorouders in die periode vastgesteld kan worden. Zo is het hoogstwaarschijnlijk dat onze voorouders in de tijd van het Romeinse rijk naar onze huidige geografische regio zijn gemigreerd. Zij waren waarschijnlijk Romeinse landbouwers en/of legionairs/veteranen van Italiaanse, Illyrische, Thracische of Griekse (Macedonische) afkomst. De indirecte relatie die we hebben met de van Santens geeft sterke aanwijzingen naar de plaats of regio Xanten, een oorspronkelijk Romeinse nederzetting die het middelpunt lijkt van de nederrijnse trojanenmythe. Deze Romeinse theorie sluit vervolgens perfect aan bij de eerstvolgende aanwijzing betreffende de afkomst van onze familie namelijk het Rooms Katholieke geloof."
    Sanders Family, Haplogroup J2b2. (Dutch)

    "Het onderzoek wees uit, dat het DNA profiel van de familie Lemmens uit de Sambeecksen Hoeck overeenkomt met Haplogroep J2. Deze Haplogroep J2 werd waargenomen bij enkele families (o.a. ook de familie van Kuppeveld) in en rond het Land van Cuijk. De oorsprong van Haplogroep J2 is het Midden Oosten. De onderzoekers stelden vast, dat de familie Lemmens vermoedelijk afstamt van de Romeinen die zich in het begin van de jaartelling ophielden in de Lage Landen, in het bijzonder in het Land van Cuijk en omstreken van Nijmegen."

    Brabants Historisch Informatie Centrum - De herkomst van de familie Lemmens. (Dutch)

    "My conclusion is that we are likely descendants of a Roman soldier serving in either Legio II or Legio XX. This Roman soldier was probably of Balkan (Macedonian, Illyrian, or Thracian) origin. It has been stated that ―The Romans surely helped spread haplogroup J2 within their borders, judging from the distribution of J2 within Europe (frequency more than 5 percent), which bear an uncanny resemblance to the borders of the Roman Empire. More research is needed to obtain a definitive answer but, in my opinion, we are most likely descendants of Roman soldiers recruited from the Balkans (Thrace, Macedonia, or Greece). The Hollywood movie "King Arthur" (2004 by Touchstone Pictures) is a striking example of how our haplogroup could have arrived in Northwestern Europe in Roman times."

    mr. R.H.A. Sanders, Haplogroup J2b2, Worden Family Newsletter August 2011.

    "In which country did Mr. J2b2 live? Did Mr. J2b2 live in the Balkans and then his descendants move to India. Or was was it that Mr. J2b2 lived in India and then his descendants moved to the Balkans. One of the theories is that Mr. J2b2's descendant were part of Alexander the Greats army which made itself all the way to India."
    Barr-Kumarakulasinghe’s and other families.

    "J2 has been well studied and can be split into several clades but whose mode of individual distribution is not well understood. Many influences such as Greek and Roman would have played a part."
    Wells Family DNA Project.

    "How our more recent ancestors ended up in England is still a mystery. It could have been a random migration of a single man. During the Roman occupation of Europe many people immigrated there from many areas of the world. Soldiers were sent there to serve military obligations. One of these might have been a man from the Mediterranean area. His descendants eventually took the surname Field and he might have been our earliest J2b2 ancestor."
    Genetic Journey of our branch of the Field family.

    "Haplogroup J2b is most common in the Middle East and reaches its highest percentages in Turkey. In Europe, the largest J2b populations are in Greece, Albania and Italy. This haplogroup is rare in Britain where it could represent remnants of eastern Mediterranean troops stationed on the island during the Roman occupation."
    Munley/Manley Surname Project.

    "Een manlijke deelnemer van deze genealogie behoort tot de haplogroep J2a. Een Haplogroep die veel voorkomt in het Noord-Oostelijk deel van Noord-Brabant, vermoedelijk aldaar gekomen via de Romeinse nederzetting te Nijmegen."
    Piet Verdonk Homepage - Genetische Genealogisch Onderzoek (DNA). (Dutch)

    "I've just had my DNA tested and it's coming up as a J2 Haplogroup, which probably means my ancient relation was most likely a Roman Legionaire garrisoned to the UK."

    Genealogy: Jim Manley's Family Tree.

    "Someone of J2a3d descent must have been living in Blacker Hill Yorkshire and acquired the Blacker name. They may well have descended from a Roman soldier or sailor from Lincoln or York who in turn must have been descended from the Phoenicians perhaps via Cantabria."

    Lost Langtons.

    "We could even go so far as to suggest he probably was a member of the J Haplogroup carrying the J2 (M172 subgroup) y-chromosome."
    Roman Times - Roman Archaeology.

    "My paternal ancestors were mostly farmworkers or self-employed craftsmen of no great social standing. I can trace my line back to the 18th century (confirmed) and as far back as the late 1500s (conjectural). Our Y-DNA Haplogroup of J-M205 (J2b1, old J2b1b) would be considered, quite unambiguously, a potential "Roman Ancestry" DNA signature, being connected in earlier times to the Greek and Thracian Settlements in the Mediterranean basin. As a matter of fact, when confronted with the J2 haplotype by one of his British customers, even Dr. Bryan Sykes of Oxford Ancestors eventually suggested a Roman origin."
    K. Pople, Pople Family Association.

    "The J2 haplogroup came to England either through middle Eastern Roman soldiers who were stationed on the island (most common explanation), through Sephardic traders (not many of those), or through the migration to the island of gypsies in the 16th century (only being thought of as a possible source very recently)."

    Harvey Genealogy.
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    "McGregor (5356) and the two brothers (7422 and 9338) belong to a DNA haplotype J2 that is found in Britain, but rarely. It is most common in Eastern European countries, leading to speculation that it is either from gypsy background or, possibly, from Eastern European soldiers stationed in Britain during the Roman occupation in the first three centuries AD."
    The MacGregor DNA Project.

    "The majority of Clan Donnachaidh participants tested so far belong to the largest population group in Europe (Haplogroup R1b), which expanded throughout Western Europe after the last Ice Age and which was the first to recolonize Britain about 11 500 years ago. About 6% of Clan Donnachaidh participants belong to Haplogroup I, which is associated with Denmark and the adjoining area of Germany. Recent books published by Bryan Sykes and Stephen Oppenheimer claim that some Haplogroup I populations entered Britain from the east in prehistoric times, before the arrival of Anglians and Vikings; it would appear that this includes Haplogroup I communities in the Highlands. A very small number of participants belong to Haplogroups E, G, J and R1a."

    Clan Donnachaidh (J2a4h2).

    "Haplogroup J2, is associated with the Romans, who also invaded Britain much earlier in about 90 AD."
    Clan Strachan Society.

    "Haplogroup J2 is subdivided into two complementary sub-haplogroups: J2a, defined by the M410 genetic marker, and J2b, defined by the M12 genetic marker. A subclade of haplogroup J2a, defined by the M92 marker has been implicated in the ancient Greek colonization."
    Leslie H. Kyle II.

    "A recent DNA test was a bit of a surprise and has proven some of my family never made it home. J2 M172 is a very strange and rare YDNA for a English family to have. The best answer I have found was Syrian archers or others brought in from the middle east passed their genetic line onto my ancestors during the roman occupation of England."
    A whole bunch of Ing's.

    "The J2 haplogroup can be found in today's populations with notable frequency in Italy, Iberia, Turkey, Albania, Greece and even India, and most likely interacted with numerous cultures, including the Greeks and Romans."
    Whittingham Family Ancestry.

    "De haplogroep J is typerend voor de bevolking uit Zuid-Oost Europa, meer bepaald voor centraal en Zuid-Italië, Griekenland en Roemenië. Het wordt ook vaak teruggevonden in Frankrijk, Turkije en het Midden-Oosten. Deze haplogroep kan in verband worden gebracht met de oude Grieken, de Romeinen alsook de Pheniciërs."
    The Sas Family - DNA en Genealogie. (Dutch)

    "In Europa komen vooral de Y-DNA haplogroepen R1b, R1a, I1, I2b, J2 en N3 voor."
    The Sas Family - DNA en Genealogie. (Dutch)

    "There have been 18 Leonards that I am aware of who have had their y-dna tested for at least 12 markers. Those 18 sharing the Leonard surname have been distributed through testing into the E3a, E3b, I, J, and R1b Haplogroups. It would appear that Leonards of Irish and German descent generally fall in the R1b modal haplotype. This is a common haplotype in northern Europe. There aren’t enough Leonards tested in the E3a, E3b, I, and unassigned haplogroups and not enough is known about their ancestry to say very much about them yet. Six English Leonards fall into the J, more specifically, J2 haplogroup. Five of these whose genealogy has been traced back to the 1600’s are descendants of James Leonard, 1620-91, of Taunton, Massachusetts."
    Leonard Y-DNA.

    "However, unexpected are the Y-DNA-tested Lavins with ancestors from Ireland, which so far has resulted in the predominant haplogroup of J2."
    Lavin DNA Project.

    "So far Y-DNA shows that there seems to have been the assumption of the mother’s O’Neill surname among some of the O’Neill’s in Puerto Rico , and others are from various Island’s in the Caribbean including Tortola ,a Island that is close to the island of St. Croix, but not Barbados that is closer to the Island of Martinique. Only two people have tested one is of the Hg R1b sub clade and another from the J2 Haplogroup."
    O'Neill's of Puerto Rico.

    "I thought that you might find this interesting. Not only did I find that my paternal line is J2B2, but my paternal name is "Hammon" ("Ammon")! Alexander called himself the son of Ammon after visiting the oracle of Ammon at the Siwa Oasis! It isn't very likely that my sir name followed my yDNA. But it is intriguing! "
    Hammon Family, Haplogroup J2b2, 2013.

    "As to my family, My Worden branch came from Lancashire England and I can only go back to the late 1400s or early 1500s. The most likely probability is that we are descended from a Roman soldier who married a Saxon woman. There was a Roman retirement villiage right at the area we came from."
    mr. R. Worden, Haplogroup J2b2, 2010.

    "As far as our haplogroup goes, J2b2 is still something of a mystery - it's scattered all over Europe, including England, and I have assumed that it had to do with the spread of the Roman Empire. While J (and J1/J2) originated in the middle east and spread in several directions (even to India) it appears that J2b (and J2b2 particularly) seem to be mostly concentrated in Europe, and have probably been there for a long time."
    mr. B. Goodman, Haplogroup J2b2, 2010.
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    "Haplogroup J2 is found frequently in Greece and Italy, in Turkey, and in the Caucasus region. J2 is also found in India, where the subclade [Haplogroup J2b2 (Y-DNA) J2b2] is widespread and another subclade [Haplogroup J2a (Y-DNA) J2a] is mainly restricted to North-West of the subcontinent population or later migrants to South and East India like Brahmins. This, together with its believed Anatolian origin, may be suggestive that it was originally a part of the Proto-Indo-European gene pool. According to the theory of Colin Renfrew, Indo-European languages spread from an Anatolian homeland."
    Eat right for your type - Haplogroup J2.

    "Die Angehörigen der im Nahen Osten beheimateten Haplogruppen E3b, F, J2, G2 gelangen an der Schwelle vom 8. zum 7. Jahrtausend v.Chr. als sesshafte Ackerbauern und Viehzüchter in den südbalkanischen Raum, wo sie die das Neolithikum auf dem Alten Kontinent auslösende Sesklo-Kultur (1. Hälfte des 7. Jahrtausends v.Chr.) initiieren. 17% des Erbgutes der heutigen männlichen Europäer weisen auf die neolithischen Einwanderer aus Anatolien hin (siehe Seite 17). Für Freiburg im Breisgau/D gilt: E3b = 5% , J2 = 9% ***"
    Martin Ballauf - Ballauf haplogruppe R1b1c1o. (German)

    "Nach einer Menge komplexer statistischer Auswertungen präsentieren Tayler-Smiths computerassistierte Genanalysatoren nun ein recht eindeutiges Ergebnis: Tatsächlich trägt die heutige männliche Bevölkerung speziell in alten Phöniziersiedlungsgebieten häufiger als anderswo typische Gensignaturvarianten der Haplogruppe J2. Charakteristisch für die Söhne altphönizischer Väter ist dabei offenbar besonders ein Austausch der Base Thymin durch Guanin an Position M172 des Y-Chromosoms. Mehr als sechs Prozent des Genpools in ehemaligen Phönizierniederlassungen stammen demnach noch heute aus den alten Linien der antiken Händler – und statistisch gesehen hat vielleicht jeder 18. lebende Mann im Mittelmeerraum direkte phönizische Vorfahren. Ganz offenbar brachten die Phönizier also einst nicht nur Handelswaren mit in neu besiedelte Gebiete."
    Das Erbe der Verdrängten. (German)

    "The J1-M267 and J2-M172 distributions in the Near East and Europe can be inferred from previously reported DYS388 data associated with Eu10 and Eu9, respectively (Semino et al. 2000a; Nebel et al. 2001b; Malaspina et al. 2001; Al-Zahery et al. 2003). While both J1 and J2 are found in the Near East, haplogroup J1-M267 typifies East Africans and Arabian populations, with a decreasing frequency northwards. Alternatively the majority of J lineages in Europe are J2-M172 that radiated from the Levant, coherent with the distributions of mitochondrial J, K, T1 and pre-HV clades (Richards et al. 2002)."
    Excavating Y-chromosome haplotype strata in Anatolia.

    "The presence of J2-M172 related lineages successfully predicted the distribution of both Neolithic figurines and painted pottery attributed to agriculturalists (King and Underhill 2002)."
    Excavating Y-chromosome haplotype strata in Anatolia.

    "The J2f-M67 clade is localized to Northwest Turkey. It is well known that during this period, Northwest Anatolia developed a complex society that engaged in widespread Aegean trade referred to as “Maritime Troia culture,” involving both the western Anatolian mainland and several of the large islands in the eastern Aegean, Chios, Lemnos and Lesbos (Korfmann 1996)."
    Excavating Y-chromosome haplotype strata in Anatolia.

    "Another J2 component is intriguing. Although J2e-M12 lineages occur at low frequencies, they are widely distributed in the Middle East (Scozzari et al. 2001) and India (Kivisild et al. 2003), as well as in Saami from Kola, Russia (Raitio et al. 2001). By comparing data sets (Malaspina et al. 2001; Scozzari et al. 2001) we deduced that J2e-M12 lineages are distinctive from all other J2-M172 lineages on the basis of complex DYS413 and YCAII dinucleotide STRs."
    Excavating Y-chromosome haplotype strata in Anatolia.

    "During the Bronze Age the population of Anatolia expanded, reaching an estimated level of 12 million during the late Roman Period (Russell 1958)."
    Excavating Y-chromosome haplotype strata in Anatolia.

    "Spezielle Haplotypen von J2 findet man in Skandinavien und den britischen Inseln."
    Deine DNA - Ahnenforschung. (German)

    "Interesting results from the lineage analysis can be summarized as follows: (i) R-L23*, the eastern branch of haplogroup R-M269, is present in Eastern Bulgaria since the post glacial period; (ii) haplogroup E-V13, which probably originated in Western Asia, has a Mesolithic age in Bulgaria from where it expanded after the spread of farming marked by haplogroup G-P15, J-M410 representatives; (iii) haplogroup J-M241 probably reflects the Neolithic westward expansion of farmers from the earliest sites along the Black Sea."
    Y-Chromosome Diversity in Modern Bulgarians: New Clues about Their Ancestry.

    "Was im ersten Moment exotisch erscheint, ist auf den zweiten Blick gar nicht so aussergewöhnlich. Rund jeder achte Europäer stammt aus der Linie J2."
    Tages Anzeiger - Für 300 Franken auf den Spuren der eigenen Vorfahren. (German)

    "J2a`s strong presence in Italy is owed in great part to the migration of the Etruscans from western Anatolia to central and northern Italy, and to the Greek colonisation of southern Italy. Immigration from the eastern Mediterranean to Rome during the Roman Empire, then from Anatolia, Thrace and Greece during the Byzantine period period (particularly in north-eastern Italy) further increased the incidence of j2 in the peninsula." - Haplogroup J2. (2013)

    "The likely deep ancestry source of Haplogroup J2 as found along the Anglo-Scottish border is probably to be found with members of the Roman Legions which were stationed along Hadrian's wall."
    Border receivers - DNA Report Nov 2005.

    "The YDNA Haplogroup of the ancient Phoenicians is J2, also identified as the signature of human migration via the Mediterranean in the Neolithic or New Stone Age around 6,000 BC, from the Levant into Europe." - The Mediterraneans.

    "Hg J: Hg J2 is present in the western Mediterranean basin, in contrast to Hg J1 which is characteristic of the Middle East and “Arabic” peoples. In Europe, Hg J2 is confined to Mediterranean Europeans, i.e. Greeks and southern Italians. Its frequency in Southern Slavs does not exceed 10%. Its presence might have been associated with certain seaborne Neolithic movements along the Mediterranean, as well as later historic events such as Greek colonization."
    South Slavs.
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    "The Plantagenets are a bit more difficult to predict as some speculate that they are related to the Carpetian kings of France and descended from Roman citizens in the haplogroup J2 or G2."
    Y-DNA of the British Monarchy.

    "Paternal genetic heritage was studied on DNA from 1,141 individuals analyzed for Y chromosome markers (data from the Institute for Anthropological Research, Zagreb, Croatia and from the published sources) (Barač et al., 2003; Rootsi et al., 2004; Peričić et al., 2005a, 2005b). The individuals were from the continental parts of the Balkan peninsula, the north-west Adriatic and the south-east Alpine areas as well as from the Eastern Adriatic islands, i.e. the areas where the different Illyrian trybes settled during the Iron Age period (Fig.1). The sample was analyzed for Y chromosomal haplogroup frequencies in 9 populations and classified as I1a, I1b*-P37, R1a-SRY1532, R1b-M173, E3b1-M78 and J2e1 haplogroups."
    Language Bounderies and Microevolutionary processes in South-Eastern Europe.

    "Attempts to ascertain Sicilian "ethnic" origins should be undertaken with caution because haplogroups do not correspond precisely to medieval or modern conceptions of nationality. At best, they are approximate. For example, J2 is identified with Greeks but also with some Germans. Speaking very broadly, the most frequent Y haplogroups of the world's most conquered island may be correlated most probably (albeit imprecisely) to the following peoples: • J2 - Greeks, Romans, Jews, Spaniards,"
    Best of Sicily - Genetics.

    "If J2b-Delta is a separate discrete lineage within J2b, this could have implications regarding when the lineage arrived in the British Isles. At present the two main hypotheses regarding the arrival of J2 in the British Isles that are commonly touted are 1) Neolithic farmers 2) Roman soldiers."
    J2 Y-DNA Poject - J2 Cluster Analysis.

    "Results are also contradicted by tests on a family that believes they descend from Emperor Franz Josef. They belong to haplogroup J2. These results are also confidential."
    Habsburg Family DNA Project.

    "In summary, our data are in agreement with a major discontinuity for the peopling of southern Europe. Here, haplogroup J constitutes not only the signature of a single wave-of-advance from the Levant but, to a greater extent, also of the expansion of the Greek world, with an accompanying novel quota of genetic variation produced during its demographic growth."
    Y chromosomal haplogroup J as a signature of the post-neolithic colonization of Europe.

    "The Minoans and Ancient Greeks very likely played an early role in the frequency and high diversity of L24(M530) haplotypes we see today in Apulia, Italy as found by Grugni et al (2012). Later the Roman armies and auxiliaries played a role. Possibly even the Carthaginians under Hannibal (Battle of Cannae) played a role. Later still the Byzantine Empire, over a period of about 1000 years, very likely played a role in the movement of L24(M530) Y-chromosomes."
    J2-L24 Blogspot - More Comments on Grugni et al (2012)

    "Sardinians show a low overall frequency of haplotypes E and J relative to Italian populations. For example J-M172 in Sardinia has a value between 5% and 9.7% (Francalacci et al., 2003), against the frequencies of 16.7-29.1% of continental Italy (Semino et al., 2004)."
    Genetic analysis of Sardinian population.
    Last edited by RHAS; 11-20-2013 at 03:16 AM.

  10. #19
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    J-M172 Project.

    J2-M172 Project.

    FamilytreeDNA J2-M172 Project.

    FamilytreeDNA J2b M102+ Project.

    FamiltreeDNA J-M241 Project.

    FamilytreeDNA J-L24 Y-DNA Haplogroup Project.

    FamilytreeDNA J2 Plus Project.

    FamilytreeDNA J2a-PF5197 Project.

    FamilytreeDNA J Haplogroup Project.

    FamilytreeDNA Netherlands Dual DNA Project.

    Haplogroup J2-M172 Project Facebook.

    Haplogroup J2-M172 Facebook Group.

    Haplogroup J2b and subclades Facebook Group.

    Cultural Anthropology of Haplogroup J2 Facebook.

    J2-M172 YouTube Channel.

    Eupedia Haplogroup J2 Origins, Distribution & History.

    Eupedia Haplogroup Frequencies Europe.

    J2a4h Y Haplogroup J-L25 DNA Blog.

    Y-DNA Haplogroup J2-M172 Flickr.

    Y-DNA Haplogroup J2-M172 Imageshack.

    Haplogroup J2 Blog.

    GenealogyWise Y-DNA J2 Group.

    Genomic Research.

    Dienekes Anthropology Blog.

    National Geographic Genographic Project.

    International Society of Genetic Genealogy.
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  11. #20
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    "The Saluja’s have been a dynamic and mobile group of business people and professionals from North India. They hail from the region north of the river Jhelum, that divides the Jhelum & Gujrat districts, an area along the Salt mines (now in Pakistan). Historical records indicate that Alexander the Great of Macedonia came to India (326 B.C) crossing the Khyber Pass to Taxila near Rawalpindi. Alexander advanced to the northwest bank of the river Jhelum to the village of Haranpur, where allegedly the Macedonians set up their base camp prior to the battle with King Porus. It is quite conceivable that people from that area of North India particularly Haranpur, Jalalpur & surroundings to have Genes of people from Greece. In fact, DNA Analysis suggests that Saluja’s belong to the DNA Haplogroup J2b, which has its origin in Greece. J2b (M12, M314, M221, M102), and is mainly found in the Balkans, Greece, Italy, and India (possibly from Neolithic Greeks)*****J2b1 (M205) - formerly J2b1b. The Saluja family history can be traced directly to this historical melting pot."
    Migration of Indians Across Continents spanning generations: A Case History of the Saluja Family.
    Since when did J2b originate in Greece? Thinking all or even a significant portion of the J2b in South Asia is from Alexander the great is likely nothing more than a myth or a fantasy. Everything I have said indicates J2b in South Asia is pre-Neolithic.

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