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Thread: GED Match and DNA land: Uttar Pradesh,Bihari and Bengali DNA?

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    Just to add to the narrative (from my previous post), to support my hypothesis of diverse South Asian ancestors, I will include the following:

    My siblings (4 brothers and 1 sister) and I have very different physical characteristics. Out of the 5 males:

    • 4 have very straight hair, I have a strange wavy / straight hair mixture (and yes this was cause for teasing growing up).
    • 3 have black hair and 2 have dark brown hair
    • 2 are average height, 2 are very short and 1 is very tall
    • 4 have a little body hair (arms, legs, and chest); 1 has none at all
    • All of us have different shades of brown skin. Taking mine as a reference, 2 are darker (one also looks somewhat South Indian); 2 are lighter (one also looks somewhat Punjabi)

    Looks like Ill have to get my siblings tested as well to get the complete story

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyDLuffy View Post
    Because your family hails from western UP. His family is most likely from Eastern part of country. The steppe admixture increases when you move west.
    Do you think the steppe admixture of everyone in western UP is exactly the same? Also is it the same for everyone in east Bihar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssamlal View Post
    Hey Toor - Thanks for the response. So my admixture results on its own wouldn't read as someone from Bihar? Or would it read as someone from Bihar just the same as someone from another, or various other places in India? Sorry for the follow-up questions; Im still trying to understand how to use (interpret) the admixture results.
    Unfortunately there aren't many samples from Bihar for us to be able to pinpoint anything unfortunately. The people in North Bihar (Maithils) generally have a slight East Asian shift, my cousin scored 12% on his AncestryDNA test. On the other hand, the people from other parts of Bihar are more similar to other Indian populations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deuterium_1 View Post
    I probably get it from my maternal side. Maybe Ssamsal is from eastern Bihar close to the Bengal border?, I was thinking districts such as Bhagalpur,Banka,Katihar,Purnia and Kishanganj?.
    I doubt that, the majority of Indo-Carribean people were from Western Bihar. Interestingly enough, a lot of the people in Purnia and Kishanganj are Koch Rajbongshis who are descended from Assamese.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_Rajbongshi_people

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    Quote Originally Posted by (!)--SSA--(!) View Post
    Do you think the steppe admixture of everyone in western UP is exactly the same? Also is it the same for everyone in east Bihar?
    No, Since migration of families and people from one place to another, especially in modern world makes it impossible for everyone to have same admixture. It's simple logic, if you move closer to originating point of a component, it will increase in population. Like how North Eastern and Eastern population has higher East asian or South East Asian than other South Asians. The only way for steppe people to enter the sub continent would have been through the North west, who knows how deep they moved in continent. Depending on their population, maybe majority of them decided to stay inNorth western part than moving into the sub continent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deuterium_1 View Post
    I probably get it from my maternal side. Maybe Ssamsal is from eastern Bihar close to the Bengal border?, I was thinking districts such as Bhagalpur,Banka,Katihar,Purnia and Kishanganj?.

    My affinity with Eastern UP is unsurprising as some of my maternal ancestors hailed from Azamgarh and Ballia districts.

    Siwan district, where the bulk of my mum's family originate has a mixture of historically Hindu and Buddhist heritage:

    http://siwan.bih.nic.in/

    According to the British gazetteer from the period, Siwan formed part of the kingdom of Kosala.
    I am from that area:

    Paternal line is Eksariya, descended from Jagarnath Dixit of Eksar a village in Saran about 15 miles from Siwan. Lots of Eksariya relatives in Siwan too. "The name of their clan is Eksariya ; of their gotra, Parasar ; ..." https://books.google.com/books?id=1FcIAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA40

    Maternal line is Yaji/Jaji from Magadh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    I am from that area:

    Paternal line is Eksariya, descended from Jagarnath Dixit of Eksar a village in Saran about 15 miles from Siwan. Lots of Eksariya relatives in Siwan too. "The name of their clan is Eksariya ; of their gotra, Parasar ; ..." https://books.google.com/books?id=1FcIAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA40

    Maternal line is Yaji/Jaji from Magadh.
    We could be related then? (in theory).

    My ancestral village is Harihans in Bihar.

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    My Geneplaza ancestry results:

    West Eurasian:89.3%

    Eastern Mediterranean:6.7%
    South Asian: 82.6%

    Central Asian:6.0%

    Ambiguous:3.1%

    Central Chinese:1.6%
    Mongolic/Tungusic:1.6%

    My Geneplaza neolithic & bronze age results:

    Southeast Asian:20.7%
    Northeast Asian:17.4%
    Neolithic-Chalcolithic Iran:14.8%
    Neolithic European:8.6%
    Yamnaya-Poltavka:8.5%
    Eastern Non-African:7.4%
    Andronovo-Srubnaya:6.1%
    Sub-Saharan:5.1%
    Neolithic Anatolians:4.0%
    Neolithic-Bronze Age Levant:3.9%
    Western European Hunter Gatherers:3.5%

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    My Geneplaza K12 Ancient Admixture Calculator Results:

    Southeast Eurasian: 32.9%

    Steppe Cultures: 31.1%
    Karasuk-e Scythian (2000-3000 years): 22.5%
    Andronovo-Srubnaya (3000-4000 years): 4.7%
    Yamnaya-Afansievo-Poltavka (4000-5000 years): 3.9%

    Ancient Farmers:28.4%
    Levant (4000-8000 years): 4.4%
    Neolithic-Chalcolithic Iran-CHG (5000 to 12000 years): 14.8%
    East European Farmers (5000-8000 years): 9.2%

    Eastern Non-Africans (modern): 4.2%

    African: 2.1%
    East African (modern): 0.7%
    West African (modern): 1.3%

    Western European & Scandinavian Hunter Gatherers (4000-5000 years): 1.3%

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