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    Quote Originally Posted by deadly77 View Post
    Apologies, I didn't see this thread until just now. I'm not very Scottish but my gig-grandmother listed her birthplace as Glasgow and a lot of my Y-DNA STR matches cone up with a Scottish origin. A large portion of my known ancestry is from the Northeast of England and all within the British Isles. I'm happy to go through my gedmatch data and share this evening after I get out of work if you're still collecting data.
    I'd love your grandmother's data if you have it, thanks

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    Hi all,

    Please ensure you're sharing either your own GEDmatch ID's or ones under your control only per section 3.4.

    If you've inadvertently shared someone else's ID publicly, please PM a member of staff.

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    Sorry, that's a typo. Not sure where gig came from but I meant to type great-great-grandmother, so no autosomal data apart from the approx 1/16 of mine that I would have inherited from her. I did inherit her mtDNA though - J1c1b2.

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    This is my brother's K13 and K15.

    K13

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 51.51
    2 Baltic 24.22
    3 West_Med 12.51
    4 West_Asian 8.6
    5 South_Asian 1.63
    6 Amerindian 1
    7 East_Asian 0.3
    8 Sub-Saharan 0.19
    9 Red_Sea 0.02
    10 East_Med 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:


    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Irish 2.61
    2 West_Scottish 3.62
    3 Orcadian 4.03
    4 North_Dutch 4.63
    5 Danish 5.12
    6 Southwest_English 5.23
    7 Norwegian 5.6
    8 Southeast_English 5.99
    9 North_German 6.48
    10 Swedish 8.06
    11 South_Dutch 9.78
    12 West_German 10.81
    13 North_Swedish 14.46
    14 French 15.18
    15 Austrian 15.38
    16 East_German 15.49
    17 Hungarian 19.97
    18 Spanish_Cataluna 22.09
    19 Southwest_Finnish 22.44
    20 Southwest_French 22.75

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 97.4% Irish + 2.6% Kalash @ 2.03
    2 97.6% Irish + 2.4% Balochi @ 2.05
    3 97.7% Irish + 2.3% Brahui @ 2.07
    4 97% Irish + 3% Tabassaran @ 2.11
    5 97.6% Irish + 2.4% Burusho @ 2.14
    6 97.3% Irish + 2.7% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.14
    7 97.2% Irish + 2.8% Chechen @ 2.15
    8 97.7% Irish + 2.3% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.17
    9 97.3% Irish + 2.7% Lezgin @ 2.17
    10 97.5% Irish + 2.5% North_Ossetian @ 2.18
    11 97.9% Irish + 2.1% Makrani @ 2.18
    12 97.5% Irish + 2.5% Ossetian @ 2.18
    13 97.4% Irish + 2.6% Kabardin @ 2.19
    14 97.7% Irish + 2.3% Pathan @ 2.19
    15 97.9% Irish + 2.1% Sindhi @ 2.2
    16 97.2% Irish + 2.8% Tadjik @ 2.2
    17 97.5% Irish + 2.5% Balkar @ 2.21
    18 97.6% Irish + 2.4% Adygei @ 2.23
    19 97.6% Irish + 2.4% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.27
    20 98.1% Irish + 1.9% Abhkasian @ 2.27

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +50% Irish @ 2.953441


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +25% Irish +25% Irish @ 2.953441


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Irish + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 2.953441
    2 Irish + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 3.223475
    3 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_Dutch @ 3.278868
    4 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_German @ 3.295299
    5 Irish + Irish + Irish + Orcadian @ 3.296951
    6 Danish + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 3.309850
    7 Irish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.312600
    8 Irish + Irish + North_German + West_Scottish @ 3.415542
    9 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 3.468552
    10 Irish + Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.503300
    11 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.503497
    12 Irish + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 3.507485
    13 Danish + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 3.507721
    14 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 3.550465
    15 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Southwest_English @ 3.573220
    16 Irish + North_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.577136
    17 Irish + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 3.584926
    18 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Orcadian @ 3.669406
    19 Irish + Irish + North_German + Southwest_English @ 3.675050
    20 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 3.688866

    K15

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 38.02
    2 Atlantic 28.5
    3 Eastern_Euro 9.98
    4 Baltic 9.12
    5 West_Med 7.56
    6 West_Asian 5.23
    7 South_Asian 0.94
    8 Amerindian 0.66

    Single Population Sharing:


    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Orcadian 2.86
    2 West_Scottish 3.29
    3 North_Dutch 3.86
    4 Danish 3.88
    5 Irish 3.94
    6 Southeast_English 4.12
    7 Southwest_English 4.99
    8 North_German 6.29
    9 Norwegian 6.64
    10 West_Norwegian 6.68
    11 Swedish 8.41
    12 South_Dutch 8.96
    13 West_German 9.41
    14 North_Swedish 11.21
    15 French 13.25
    16 East_German 14.5
    17 Southwest_Finnish 16.66
    18 Austrian 18.83
    19 Hungarian 19.23
    20 Finnish 19.85

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 93.9% Orcadian + 6.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.13
    2 94.7% Orcadian + 5.3% Erzya @ 2.15
    3 88.5% Orcadian + 11.5% East_German @ 2.16
    4 94.1% Orcadian + 5.9% Southwest_Russian @ 2.18
    5 94.2% Orcadian + 5.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.18
    6 93.9% Orcadian + 6.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.2
    7 96.2% Orcadian + 3.8% Tabassaran @ 2.21
    8 96.4% Orcadian + 3.6% Chechen @ 2.21
    9 76.6% Orcadian + 23.4% North_German @ 2.21
    10 96.4% Orcadian + 3.6% Lezgin @ 2.21
    11 93% Orcadian + 7% Croatian @ 2.22
    12 93.1% Orcadian + 6.9% South_Polish @ 2.22
    13 93.3% Orcadian + 6.7% Polish @ 2.23
    14 93.4% Orcadian + 6.6% Moldavian @ 2.24
    15 94.3% Orcadian + 5.7% Estonian_Polish @ 2.24
    16 93.6% Orcadian + 6.4% Ukrainian @ 2.26
    17 91.5% Orcadian + 8.5% Austrian @ 2.27
    18 96.6% Orcadian + 3.4% Kabardin @ 2.27
    19 94.5% Orcadian + 5.5% Belorussian @ 2.29
    20 96.8% Orcadian + 3.2% Adygei @ 2.29

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Danish +50% Orcadian @ 2.700008


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Danish +25% Orcadian +25% Orcadian @ 2.700008


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.468943
    2 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.606963
    3 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 2.664194
    4 Danish + Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.700008
    5 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.719922
    6 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 2.725399
    7 Danish + North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.767285
    8 North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.777022
    9 Danish + Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.791629
    10 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.816727
    11 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 2.820725
    12 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.830852
    13 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 2.836830
    14 Danish + North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.876363
    15 Irish + North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.906238
    16 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 2.906962
    17 North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 2.914979
    18 North_Dutch + North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.926702
    19 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 2.933666
    20 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.943340

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    Here's mine - all known ancestry within the British Isles.

    Eurogenes Eu test

    Population
    SOUTH_BALTIC 9.85
    EAST_EURO 13.26
    NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 30.28
    ATLANTIC 28.59
    WEST_MED 11.88
    EAST_MED 1.61
    WEST_ASIAN 2.05
    MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.35
    SOUTH_ASIAN -
    EAST_AFRICAN -
    EAST_ASIAN -
    SIBERIAN -
    WEST_AFRICAN 0.13

    Eurogenes K12

    Population
    South Asian -
    Caucasus 2.55
    Southwest Asian 2.41
    North Amerindian + Arctic -
    Siberian -
    Mediterranean 10.57
    East Asian -
    West African 0.18
    Volga-Ural 9.24
    South Baltic 8.69
    Western European 31.25
    North Sea 35.11

    Eurogenes V2 K15

    Population
    North_Sea 38.60
    Atlantic 30.03
    Baltic 8.00
    Eastern_Euro 9.08
    West_Med 8.88
    West_Asian 1.48
    East_Med 1.44
    Red_Sea 1.24
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.09
    Oceanian 0.34
    Northeast_African 0.11
    Sub-Saharan 0.71

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    Gave you K12 rather than K13. This is K13:

    Population
    North_Atlantic 53.51
    Baltic 22.63
    West_Med 12.45
    West_Asian 2.78
    East_Med 4.75
    Red_Sea 1.63
    South_Asian -
    East_Asian 0.07
    Siberian 0.23
    Amerindian 0.34
    Oceanian 0.71
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan 0.91

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    My results T671125. My (current known) ancestry is English, predominantly Kent and Essex to at least 4, in some cases 7 generations.

    Will this information be collated into something accessible at some point? I've been asking in various places for some means of simple comparison for British Isles populations rather than forever lumping us all together into the Isles off the coast! Britain and Ireland have a rich history of migration and invasions from across Europe and beyond. It would be great to see what influence that has had on modern landscape/genetics. (i realise there have been some papers on this but so much more could potentially be done through crowd sourcing the collection of data (or at least allowing people to compare with the findings of research).

    EUtest:

    Population
    SOUTH_BALTIC 13.18
    EAST_EURO 10.08
    NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 32.19
    ATLANTIC 25.57
    WEST_MED 10.33
    EAST_MED 3.93
    WEST_ASIAN 4.57
    MIDDLE_EASTERN -
    SOUTH_ASIAN -
    EAST_AFRICAN -
    EAST_ASIAN -
    SIBERIAN -
    WEST_AFRICAN 0.12

    K13
    Population
    North_Atlantic 52.98
    Baltic 23.18
    West_Med 11.12
    West_Asian 4.86
    East_Med 4.20
    Red_Sea 0.20
    South_Asian 1.80
    East_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.66
    Oceanian 1.00
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    K15
    Population
    North_Sea 40.95
    Atlantic 27.24
    Baltic 11.95
    Eastern_Euro 5.64
    West_Med 6.91
    West_Asian 2.96
    East_Med 1.83
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian 1.38
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.34
    Oceanian 0.75
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

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    Quote Originally Posted by sktibo View Post
    Hello all,

    I would like to compile a thread that catalogues Eurogenes admixture results for "pure bred" people in Britain and Ireland. I'm requesting either a gedmatch number or Eurogenes EUtest, k13, and k15 results. I think this would be a fun thread for members of the forum to refer to so that they can see the difference (in gedmatch terms) of the different populations of Britain and Ireland. If people are comfortable with it and think it is a good idea, I think it would be very cool to eventually include people from other areas as well. Please let me know if you are willing to let me use your gedmatch info and you want to participate.

    Thank you very much
    Fantastic idea! My Gedmatch number is T656173. Both my parents, sadly deceased, were born in Ireland. My father in County Monaghan and my mother in County Cavan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdeed View Post
    My results T671125. My (current known) ancestry is English, predominantly Kent and Essex to at least 4, in some cases 7 generations.

    Will this information be collated into something accessible at some point? I've been asking in various places for some means of simple comparison for British Isles populations rather than forever lumping us all together into the Isles off the coast! Britain and Ireland have a rich history of migration and invasions from across Europe and beyond. It would be great to see what influence that has had on modern landscape/genetics. (i realise there have been some papers on this but so much more could potentially be done through crowd sourcing the collection of data (or at least allowing people to compare with the findings of research).

    EUtest:

    Population
    SOUTH_BALTIC 13.18
    EAST_EURO 10.08
    NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 32.19
    ATLANTIC 25.57
    WEST_MED 10.33
    EAST_MED 3.93
    WEST_ASIAN 4.57
    MIDDLE_EASTERN -
    SOUTH_ASIAN -
    EAST_AFRICAN -
    EAST_ASIAN -
    SIBERIAN -
    WEST_AFRICAN 0.12

    K13
    Population
    North_Atlantic 52.98
    Baltic 23.18
    West_Med 11.12
    West_Asian 4.86
    East_Med 4.20
    Red_Sea 0.20
    South_Asian 1.80
    East_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.66
    Oceanian 1.00
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    K15
    Population
    North_Sea 40.95
    Atlantic 27.24
    Baltic 11.95
    Eastern_Euro 5.64
    West_Med 6.91
    West_Asian 2.96
    East_Med 1.83
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian 1.38
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.34
    Oceanian 0.75
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -
    Thank you for sharing your info with me. The current document is accessible on page three, though I'll be moving it to the front page if I'm still able to edit that. If I'm not able to, I'll make a new thread in the aDNA section of our forums.

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    Just a note: I've decided to only include K15 results as I'm trying to keep the document small so that I'm able to post it here. I'm unable to edit the original post so I'll be starting a new thread where you will hopefully be able to access the document.
    Thanks!

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