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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnaud Bzh View Post
    Je viens d'avoir le résultat de We Gene sans rien payer (avec un bilan de santé complet en plus). Celui de "My Heritage"est en cours de traitement avec un bloqueur d'IP (on verra si j'ai le résultat d'ici quelques jours). Pour Ged-match, les calculateurs (eurogenes, dodecad)fonctionnent mais pas les comparaisons avec les autres inscrits. Quand a FTDNA, la dernière version de "23andme"(V5 chip) n'est pas compatible. Si certains veulent mon fichier brut, il est enregistré sur mon disque dur.
    Alors, tu as de quoi t’amuser... pour GedMatch, ça prend quelques heures, parfois même toute une journée pour pouvoir utiliser le one-to-many.
    K13 : 55.7% North_Dutch + 44.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1,7
    K15 : 79.6% Orcadian + 20.4% Sardinian @ 3,27
    Of course one population is French... @ 4,09 and 5,38 for K13 and K15.
    Y-DNA of ancestors include R-M269, J-M67 (from 23andMe genocousins -12 lines to this ancestor),
    J-CTS1192 and E-L117 (from French Heritage DNA Project at FT-DNA)

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    C'est quoi en fait les "eurogenes" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by franck View Post
    C'est quoi en fait les "eurogenes" ?
    Les calculateurs sur Gedmatch? Ils ont été créés par David qui anime le blog Eurogenes.

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    Moi, j'aime beaucoup les résultats d'Eurogenes mais j'ai parfois du mal à les interpréter!

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    c'est vrai qu'ils sont pas mal.

    Les miens par exemple sur K13, en étant 1/4 breton (ligné paternel), 1/2 italien, et l'autre 1/4 pas spécialement d'un coin particulier de la France.

     
    1 North_Atlantic 32.91
    2 West_Med 19.95
    3 Baltic 15.32
    4 East_Med 14.74
    5 West_Asian 11.59
    6 Red_Sea 3.5
    7 Northeast_African 0.84
    8 Oceanian 0.73
    9 South_Asian 0.28
    10 Amerindian 0.14

    1 52.7% Central_Greek + 47.3% Southwest_English @ 2.63
    2 79.5% French + 20.5% Armenian @ 2.89
    3 79.7% French + 20.3% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.93
    4 51.7% East_Sicilian + 48.3% Southwest_English @ 3.05
    5 78.8% Portuguese + 21.2% Lezgin @ 3.14
    6 75.7% French + 24.3% Turkish @ 3.24
    7 51.5% South_Dutch + 48.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.26
    8 54.5% Central_Greek + 45.5% Irish @ 3.27
    9 79.7% French + 20.3% Assyrian @ 3.3
    10 58.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 41.8% Southwest_English @ 3.33
    11 55% Central_Greek + 45% West_Scottish @ 3.33

    12 60.2% South_Dutch + 39.8% South_Italian @ 3.35
    13 51.2% South_Italian + 48.8% Irish @ 3.36
    14 50.6% Southwest_English + 49.4% South_Italian @ 3.36
    15 78.5% Portuguese + 21.5% Tabassaran @ 3.37
    16 78.5% Portuguese + 21.5% Chechen @ 3.38
    17 53.5% East_Sicilian + 46.5% Irish @ 3.4
    18 57% South_Dutch + 43% Central_Greek @ 3.41
    19 64.6% French + 35.4% Central_Greek @ 3.44
    20 58% South_Dutch + 42% East_Sicilian @ 3.57
    Last edited by donj; 10-12-2017 at 07:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donj View Post
    c'est vrai qu'ils sont pas mal.

    Les miens par exemple sur K13, en étant 1/4 breton (ligné paternel), 1/2 italien, et l'autre 1/4 pas spécialement d'un coin particulier de la France.

     
    1 North_Atlantic 32.91
    2 West_Med 19.95
    3 Baltic 15.32
    4 East_Med 14.74
    5 West_Asian 11.59
    6 Red_Sea 3.5
    7 Northeast_African 0.84
    8 Oceanian 0.73
    9 South_Asian 0.28
    10 Amerindian 0.14

    1 52.7% Central_Greek + 47.3% Southwest_English @ 2.63
    2 79.5% French + 20.5% Armenian @ 2.89
    3 79.7% French + 20.3% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.93
    4 51.7% East_Sicilian + 48.3% Southwest_English @ 3.05
    5 78.8% Portuguese + 21.2% Lezgin @ 3.14
    6 75.7% French + 24.3% Turkish @ 3.24
    7 51.5% South_Dutch + 48.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.26
    8 54.5% Central_Greek + 45.5% Irish @ 3.27
    9 79.7% French + 20.3% Assyrian @ 3.3
    10 58.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 41.8% Southwest_English @ 3.33
    11 55% Central_Greek + 45% West_Scottish @ 3.33

    12 60.2% South_Dutch + 39.8% South_Italian @ 3.35
    13 51.2% South_Italian + 48.8% Irish @ 3.36
    14 50.6% Southwest_English + 49.4% South_Italian @ 3.36
    15 78.5% Portuguese + 21.5% Tabassaran @ 3.37
    16 78.5% Portuguese + 21.5% Chechen @ 3.38
    17 53.5% East_Sicilian + 46.5% Irish @ 3.4
    18 57% South_Dutch + 43% Central_Greek @ 3.41
    19 64.6% French + 35.4% Central_Greek @ 3.44
    20 58% South_Dutch + 42% East_Sicilian @ 3.57
    Petite comparaison de nos résultats K13 (en utilisant nMonte pour mes résultats):

    1 52.7% Central_Greek + 47.3% Southwest_English @ 2.63

    VS

    [1] "distance%=3.7367 / distance=0.037367"

    Central_Greek 52.6
    Southwest_English 47.4


    4 51.7% East_Sicilian + 48.3% Southwest_English @ 3.05

    VS

    [1] "distance%=3.1675 / distance=0.031675"

    East_Sicilian 51.9
    Southwest_English 48.1


    8 54.5% Central_Greek + 45.5% Irish @ 3.27

    VS

    [1] "distance%=4.1122 / distance=0.041122"

    Central_Greek 54.2
    Irish 45.8


    10 58.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 41.8% Southwest_English @ 3.33

    VS

    [1] "distance%=4.1792 / distance=0.041792"

    Italian_Abruzzo 58.1
    Southwest_English 41.9


    11 55% Central_Greek + 45% West_Scottish @ 3.33

    VS

    [1] "distance%=3.6965 / distance=0.036965"

    Central_Greek 54.5
    West_Scottish 45.5


    13 51.2% South_Italian + 48.8% Irish @ 3.36

    VS

    [1] "distance%=3.6965 / distance=0.036965"

    South_Italian 51.1
    Irish 48.9


    14 50.6% Southwest_English + 49.4% South_Italian @ 3.36

    VS

    [1] "distance%=3.9983 / distance=0.039983"

    Southwest_English 50.5
    South_Italian 49.5


    17 53.5% East_Sicilian + 46.5% Irish @ 3.4

    VS

    [1] "distance%=3.2817 / distance=0.032817"

    East_Sicilian 53.5
    Irish 46.5
    Last edited by Agamemnon; 10-12-2017 at 09:39 PM.
    ᾽Άλλο δέ τοι ἐρέω, σὺ δ᾽ ἐνὶ φρεσὶ βάλλεο σῇσιν:
    κρύβδην, μηδ᾽ ἀναφανδά, φίλην ἐς πατρίδα γαῖαν
    νῆα κατισχέμεναι: ἐπεὶ οὐκέτι πιστὰ γυναιξίν.


    -Αγαμέμνων; H Οδύσσεια, Ραψωδία λ

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    C'est vrai que c'est très très similaire !

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    Quote Originally Posted by donj View Post
    C'est vrai que c'est très très similaire !
    J'ai récemment obtenu ce fit avec mes résultats K7, vu à quel point nous sommes similaires il devrait également t'intéresser:

    [1] "distance%=0.4431 / distance=0.004431"

    Mycenaean:average 50.50
    Ireland_EBA:average 42.70
    England_Anglo-Saxon:average 4.35
    England_IA:average 2.45


    Je vais essayer de faire la même chose pour toi.

    UPDATE: Ok voici ce que j'ai réussi à obtenir avec tes résultats K7:

    [1] "distance%=0.4169 / distance=0.004169"

    donj

    Mycenaean:average 53.2
    England_IA:average 33.4
    Unetice_Germany:average 13.4


    [1] "distance%=0.4199 / distance=0.004199"

    donj

    Mycenaean:average 53.4
    England_IA:average 32.9
    Ireland_EBA:average 13.7


    England_IA a l'air de très bien marcher avec tes résultats, peut-être est-ce dû à tes origines bretonnes?
    Last edited by Agamemnon; 10-13-2017 at 12:50 AM.
    ᾽Άλλο δέ τοι ἐρέω, σὺ δ᾽ ἐνὶ φρεσὶ βάλλεο σῇσιν:
    κρύβδην, μηδ᾽ ἀναφανδά, φίλην ἐς πατρίδα γαῖαν
    νῆα κατισχέμεναι: ἐπεὶ οὐκέτι πιστὰ γυναιξίν.


    -Αγαμέμνων; H Οδύσσεια, Ραψωδία λ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agamemnon View Post
    J'ai récemment obtenu ce fit avec mes résultats K7, vu à quel point nous sommes similaires il devrait également t'intéresser:

    [1] "distance%=0.4431 / distance=0.004431"

    Mycenaean:average 50.50
    Ireland_EBA:average 42.70
    England_Anglo-Saxon:average 4.35
    England_IA:average 2.45


    Je vais essayer de faire la même chose pour toi.

    UPDATE: Ok voici ce que j'ai réussi à obtenir avec tes résultats K7:

    [1] "distance%=0.4169 / distance=0.004169"

    donj

    Mycenaean:average 53.2
    England_IA:average 33.4
    Unetice_Germany:average 13.4


    [1] "distance%=0.4199 / distance=0.004199"

    donj

    Mycenaean:average 53.4
    England_IA:average 32.9
    Ireland_EBA:average 13.7


    England_IA a l'air de très bien marcher avec tes résultats, peut-être est-ce dû à tes origines bretonnes?
    Aga,
    Quelle est la liste de populations que tu as utilisé pour cette simulation ?
    Merci
    My results from David Wesolowski's Ancestry Detective Service:

    West British (Britonic?) 42.3%
    Continental Northern and Eastern European 36.6%
    Central French 21.1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helgenes50 View Post
    Aga,
    Quelle est la liste de populations que tu as utilisé pour cette simulation ?
    Merci
    Si je me souviens bien:

    Mycenaean:average,7.69,51.4466667,0.1966667,0.07,0 ,0.25,40.3433333
    Ireland_EBA:average,20.2966667,22.4933333,0.31,0.1 466667,0.37,0.1933333,56.1966667
    Bell_Beaker_Germany:average,18.88,22.6266667,0.22, 0.2466667,0.3433333,0.2733333,57.4066667
    Unetice_Germany:average,20.28,22.8566667,0.43,0.18 ,0.08,0.2266667,55.9466667
    England_Anglo-Saxon:average,18.2366667,23.41,0.02,0.3466667,0.01 ,0.3233333,57.6533333
    England_IA:average,17.14,25.66,0.0966667,0.13,0.08 66667,0.1066667,56.78
    England_Roman:average,17.1466667,24.805,0.17,0.16, 0.2,0.3116667,57.2066667
    ᾽Άλλο δέ τοι ἐρέω, σὺ δ᾽ ἐνὶ φρεσὶ βάλλεο σῇσιν:
    κρύβδην, μηδ᾽ ἀναφανδά, φίλην ἐς πατρίδα γαῖαν
    νῆα κατισχέμεναι: ἐπεὶ οὐκέτι πιστὰ γυναιξίν.


    -Αγαμέμνων; H Οδύσσεια, Ραψωδία λ

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