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    From the same thesis

    The L914 SNP, a previously undescribed (T> G) transversion, was found in three LN-EBA individuals. In one of the Ust’-Ida individuals (UID_1989.026.01), L914 SNP was amplified in two different samples, one bone (2009.190) and one tooth (2001.547). For the other Ust’-Ida 125 individual, L914 SNP was amplified twice in two different occasions from the same bone sample (2009.177) (Table 3.1 and table 3.2). Reproducible results were also obtained from the Kurma XI individual defining L914 SNP (KUR_2003.019). These findings indicate that the L914 is a novel authentic SNP site on the LN-EBA individuals from Cis-Baikal prehistoric population. L914 SNP does not define a specific Y-chromosomal haplogroup and is not cited in the modern world population, which might indicate that this is a rare mutation site that is not defined yet.
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-L914/
    E-M84>Y5435>Y5412>FGC18389>FGC18401>FGC18388 tMRCA 3000ybp

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    Seems unlikely because E's L914 is clearly younger than these samples.

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Z1788/

    Some haplogroup could have had an extinct branch with L914 though.

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    Nour Moussa, Maternal and Paternal Polymorphisms in Prehistoric Siberian Populations of Lake Baikal, PhD thesis 2015. Available online era.library.ualberta.ca

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    This dissertation examines prehistoric hunter-gatherer populations that inhabited Siberia, Russia, several thousand years ago. The Lake Baikal of Siberia was home to two temporally distinct populations from Early Neolithic, EN (8000-6800 cal BP) to Late Neolithic-Early Bronze Age, LN-EBA (5800-4000 cal BP). The EN group was separated from the LN-EBA group by a 1000-year gap (hiatus). Several cemeteries have been excavated as part of an international Baikal Archaeology Project (BAP). These include one EN cemetery (Shamanka II) and two LN-EBA cemeteries (Kurma XI and Khuzhir-Nuge XIV). Maternally inherited mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) has been examined previously for two EN cemeteries (Lokomotiv and Shamanka II) and one of the LN-EBA cemeteries (Ust’-Ida). mtDNA has not been analyzed before from the Kurma XI cemetery. This dissertation hypothesis focused on the examination of mtDNA from Shamanka II and Kurma XI cemeteries and examination of Y-chromosomal DNA from the four excavated cemeteries (Lokomotiv, Shamanka II, Ust’-Ida and Kurma XI) to identify genetic discontinuity and/or continuity between and within the EN and LN-EBA of prehistoric populations. .... Four different mtDNA haplogroups were found in Kurma XI individuals including A, D, F and Z. ....

    Y-chromosomal haplogroups were obtained from male individuals in the four cemeteries. Individuals from Lokomotiv and Shamanka II were found to possess haplogroups K, R1a1 and C3, and individuals from Ust’-Ida and Kurma XI were found to belong to haplogroups Q, K and unidentified SNP (L914). For those individuals belonging to haplogroup Q, further experimentation to examine sub-haplogroups of Q revealed that these individuals belong to sub-haplogroup Q1a3.... the Y-chromosome results showed a discontinuity between the EN and the LN-EBA populations of Lake Baikal.
    I hope they're working toward autosomes

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    Not sure if this has been posted ?

    Genetic diversity of two Neolithic populations provides evidence of farming expansions in North China

    Ye Zhang, Jiawei Li, Yongbin Zhao, Xiyan Wu, Hongjie Li, Lu Yao, Hong Zhu and Hui Zhou

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    The West Liao River Valley and the Yellow River Valley are recognized Neolithic farming centers in North China. The population dynamics between these two centers have significantly contributed to the present-day genetic patterns and the agricultural advances of North China. To understand the Neolithic farming expansions between the West Liao River Valley and the Yellow River Valley, we analyzed mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) and the Y chromosome of 48 individuals from two archeological sites, Jiangjialiang (>3000 BC) and Sanguan (~1500 BC). These two sites are situated between the two farming centers and experienced a subsistence shift from hunting to farming. We did not find a significant difference in the mtDNA, but their genetic variations in the Y chromosome were different. Individuals from the Jiangjialiang belonged to two Y haplogroups, N1 (not N1a or N1c) and N1c. The individuals from the Sanguan are Y haplogroup O3. Two stages of migration are supported. Populations from the West Liao River Valley spread south at about 3000 BC, and a second northward expansion from the Yellow River Valley occurred later (3000–1500 BC).

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    Its abstract was posted a while ago.

    This is another study which could do with a better resolution for SNP's.

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    indid shirakoth,
    the chance for E is ververy low
    what is surprising for me is that haplogroup D
    is missing again and again
    only was found in passa map somewhere in nepal
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    These Early Neolithic remains from Shamanka II found to belong to K* (xN1c1-TAT, O-M175, P-M45), mostly could belong to T1a haplogroup. Haplogroup T is found among a EN population from Germany and a Neolithic population from Jordan. Also haplogroup T1a have been found in modern populations from this Siberian region like Tuvinians from Ubsunur Hollow, also found among Kazakhs, Khakass and Mongolians.
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    Has anyone found out anything about the EAA presentations?

    #eaavilnius2016 hasn't got a single tweet about the genetics session today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaikorth View Post
    Has anyone found out anything about the EAA presentations?

    #eaavilnius2016 hasn't got a single tweet about the genetics session today.
    I know. Annoying!

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