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    Quote Originally Posted by Deftextra View Post
    Intresting. I and my 3 closest cousins match distantly a Tanzanian (on ancestryDNA) who is mixture of indian, middle-eastern, and what looks like british&irish. + a bunch of trace regions, including what I assume is comming from native tanzanian admixture. I was suprised that this individual was from tanzanzia and identifies as Tanzanian, since her Native tanzanian admixture was only a trace region. Not to mention her surname has the highest fequency in Tanzanzia and is more than 2 times the frequency of the surname outside of Tanzania.

    Do you know if his dutch admixure is recent?
    Alright, correction - he's of partial German descent (p. grandfather), not Dutch . I guess that makes a lot of more sense given their early colonial history.

    I mentioned you (Deftextra) and the blog, he said there's many Tanzanians of Somali descent - so, no wonder your closest matches have a few distant cousins down there. How closely related is the distant TZ match to your closest matches?
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    Single Population Sharing: Chad_Bulala 14.17, Alur 17.26, South_Sudanese 25.21, South_Sudan_Anuak 25.65, Cameroon_Mada 28.57, Ethiopian_Gumuz 33.91, Kenyan_Maasai 36.07, Kenyan_Bantu 38.05, Chad_Kaba 40.04, DRC_Hema 42.08, Kenyan_Luhya 46.64

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiloSaharan View Post
    Alright, correction - he's of partial German descent (p. grandfather), not Dutch . I guess that makes a lot of more sense given their early colonial history.

    I mentioned you (Deftextra) and the blog, he said there's many Tanzanians of Somali descent - so, no wonder your closest matches have a few distant cousins down there. How closely related is the distant TZ match to your closest matches?
    I match this individual at only 1, 8cm segement. However, this is probably the only match of this size that I share with my closely related cousins and I am not sure how much they match this individual. So who knows. I have seen this happen before where I match someone at only one 9cm segement, while at least one of my cousins matches him/her at multiple segement of a total 25 cm say.

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    My mum had a new Tanzanian match whose parents were Tanzanian and Somali. Their family were from Zanzibar, Dar es Salaam and Baraawe. Their main regions are Middle East, African South Eastern Bantu and Asia South. Only European they had was European Jewish in their trace regions which my mother doesn't have.
    AncestryDNA - 77% European, 12% Asian, 9% African, 1% Native American, 1% Pacific Islander
    23andme - 78.7% European, 10.2% East Asian and Native American, 7.5% Subsaharan African, 2.7% South Asian, 0.1% North African, 0.8% unassigned
    DNA.Land - 77% West Eurasian, 12% East Asian, 9.7% African, 1.9% Ambiguous
    DNA Tribes - 72.6% European, 10.4% Subsaharan African, 7.8% Asian, 7.1% South Asian, 2.1% Amerindian

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFWinstone View Post
    My mum had a new Tanzanian match whose parents were Tanzanian and Somali. Their family were from Zanzibar, Dar es Salaam and Baraawe. Their main regions are Middle East, African South Eastern Bantu and Asia South. Only European they had was European Jewish in their trace regions which my mother doesn't have.
    Intresting. Was this on AncestryDNA? I might match this person. Those are the main regions what somali Benadiris (mogdishu, merka&baraawe) usually score aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deftextra View Post
    Yeah. I sometimes come across this vague mention of Portuguese ancestry aswell. However, from the results I have seen so far, there no obvious indication of any European ancestry. We sometimes score small amounts, but this is most likely coming from our Middle-Eastern and south-Asian ancestry. I think its very unlikely anyway for such ancestry to have come directly, since the Portuguese never had any foothold, except for Barawa , but it only lasted for 3 days and they got expelled soon after.

    I have come across this interesting (outdated and no references) page which mentions:
    "In the early 20th century there was an area within the city of Mogadishu that was inhabited by seamen and traders. Some of these traders claimed part Portuguese and part Indian ancestry."


    http://www.portcities.org.uk/london/...of-London.html

    The area they are talking about is probably "xamar weyne", which is the oldest part of Mogadishu and where our clans used to live. I remember my mother mentioning some years ago that various different "foreigners" used to live there as well. I have various cousins which I am told actually have recent ancestries from these communities. It would be interesting to see how they would score.

    Edit: I actually match with a bunch of Iberians and part Iberians on ancestryDNA (6-11cm single segments).
    A little OT, but on 23andme I matched with some full southern coastal Iranians (in fact, hilariously, Iran was one of my top 3 countries of ancestry back when 23andme still had that feature) and Vietnamese. Both regions were never directly colonized by Portugal, but Portuguese sailors still had substantial bases/presences there in the 16th and 17th centuries. Since these matches tended to score a tiny amount of Southern European, we came to the conclusion that we were probably related through my Portuguese side.

    So I wouldn't discount some Portuguese descendants running around in coastal East Africa and other unexpected places. I know some groups in Lamu and Pemba explicitly claim Portuguese ancestry.

    Also don't forget that in addition to Portuguese sailors and soldiers directly affiliated to the Crown and the Empire, there was also the phenomenon of "renegados" (Portuguese soldiers, especially in India and Southeast Asia, who deserted and became mercenaries in the service of various local rulers, sometimes converting to Islam and even fighting against their countrymen; Felipe de Brito e Nicote is one example), as well as backwoodsmen like "lanados" or "sertanejos", who became independent traders, often settling in remote parts of Africa and taking native wives in order to form trade alliances with local groups.

    So just because the "official" Portuguese presence in places like the Persian Gulf or the Swahili Coast was short-lived doesn't mean that some wayward adventurers might not have settled there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deftextra View Post
    Intresting. Was this on AncestryDNA? I might match this person. Those are the main regions what somali Benadiris (mogdishu, merka&baraawe) usually score aswell.
    Yeah they were on AncestryDNA
    AncestryDNA - 77% European, 12% Asian, 9% African, 1% Native American, 1% Pacific Islander
    23andme - 78.7% European, 10.2% East Asian and Native American, 7.5% Subsaharan African, 2.7% South Asian, 0.1% North African, 0.8% unassigned
    DNA.Land - 77% West Eurasian, 12% East Asian, 9.7% African, 1.9% Ambiguous
    DNA Tribes - 72.6% European, 10.4% Subsaharan African, 7.8% Asian, 7.1% South Asian, 2.1% Amerindian

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    I dont know if ive already posted this but here are my ancestrydna results from last year.

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