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    I wonder if these 'shifts' are taken into account when there is talks about "climate' Change .
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    Oh for heaven's sake.

    If the axis of the earth had tilted enough in a short time to affect the climate then anyone who paid attention to the sky - not just professional astronomers, but every amateur astronomer and traditional stargazer on earth - would have noticed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalophias View Post
    Oh for heaven's sake.

    If the axis of the earth had tilted enough in a short time to affect the climate then anyone who paid attention to the sky - not just professional astronomers, but every amateur astronomer and traditional stargazer on earth - would have noticed.
    Indeed any amateur could have figured it out. I've been star gazing for years, since I was a young teen & got my first telescope. I've got an entire setup now - including laptop which monitors for me as well.

    But then one doesn't need to constantly gaze upwards. The increasingly wacky migration of numerous bird species, insect species, etc... not to mention the continual & increasing beaching of whales & dolphins is just some of the clues.


    It is sort of like how those same sorts of amateurs ignore the increasing deaths of amphibians - a rather well studied and well known indicator species of problems - and the increasing incidents of red [& similar] algae tides as the environment becomes more and more polluted.


    NASA scientists confirm Earth is tilting the opposite direction; Climate change making Earth’s wobble shift
    But in the long run the experts confirm what some of the amateurs have been missing.
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    Here is an article which may be of interest concerning the subject titled, 'Tibet sediments reveal climate patterns from millions of years ago'

    https://phys.org/news/2017-04-tibet-...atterns_1.html

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    http://www.astrobio.net/news-exclusi...ed-the-sahara/

    This article describes research on the result on the earth's tilt on creating the Sahara desert. basically a small shift in tilt caused the monsoons to weaken and the Sahara gradually or quickly in some places dried from grassland to its present state.
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    This is something We'll not be able to prove or disprove. The mainstream science has had some fails in the past and I'm highly suspicious in most studies based on earth when political interest also plays a significant role in each studies. I don't believe anything but I try to listen and make a personal conclusion which can be either true or false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeWhalen View Post
    I ran into this brief article, and even though it is a year old, I dont remember seeing it before

    It raises a point that concerns me, I normally am very hard science based on these sorts of things, but I also think the practical, survival oriented wisdom of certain indigenous people needs to be looked at very carefully before dismissing it

    Anyway, the Inuit elders seem to have come to a consensus that all the recent weird weather changes are not because of global warming and such, but rather the earths axis has tilted to the north and in a fundamental way has changed

    anyone know the facts? is it easy to tell if our axis has changed? I really have no idea about this stuff but I certainly do believe the elders have noticed something real, is there another explanation?

    http://newspaper.indianlife.org/stor...ld%20/582.html

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    1. Orbital shape (eccentricity)
    2. Axial tilt (obliquity)
    3. Axial precession
    4. Apsidal precession
    5. Orbital inclination

    Of the above 5 cycles of the earth, number 3 is the smallest of the cycles. However even this smallest cycle takes 72.2 years to move 1 degree, hence it is humanly impossible to observe and measure the movement with eyes.


    Regarding the knowledge of one of these cycles with Inuit can not be dismissed, because atleast the Earths Axial precession has been know and recorded much before the beggining of the ERA.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles

    The first calculated Axial Precession length appears in Vedanga Jyotish (dated between 1400BCE to 700BCE) and it has been mentioned as taking 24000 years to complete one Axial rotation.

    However as per modern Science the Axial rotation takes 25772 years. Though they do not match what is surprising is the knowledge of the Axial rotation with the ancients and also a pretty close calculation matching the modern science.

    The Milankovitch cycles (link above) also explain how these cycles affect the seasonal variations and climate changes.

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    A pole switch would be such a dramatic event, if it could even happen, that I think these people that propose this having happened in the past understand. Every variable on the planet needs to change and the effect would be disastrous.

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