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    Your Oracle-X Calculator Results (Gedmatch)

    The first time I ran it, it seemed really inaccurate, and random...not worth bothering with. It was revised Dec. 31, so I gave it a 2nd try, and it seems better. I'm guessing AT is Austria, but I'm not sure.


    EUTest:

    0 Unable to determine 0.01%
    1 KR 28.57%
    2 AT 20.70%
    3 Japanese 12.34%
    4 Scottish 12.28%
    5 IE 10.40%
    6 KZ 4.68%
    7 North_Han_Chinese 4.16%
    8 Udmurt 3.88%
    9 French_Basque 2.85%
    10 Selkup 0.12%


    JTest:

    0 Unable to determine 0.01%
    1 KR 34.45%
    2 AT 24.27%
    3 Scottish 11.12%
    4 IE 7.42%
    5 Japanese 5.95%
    6 Udmurt 5.32%
    7 Northern_Han_Chinese 4.79%
    8 Selkup 4.27%
    9 French_Basque 2.39%
    10 Cornish 0.01%

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    Yes, AT = Austria.

    Mine:

    EUTest

    0 Unable to determine 0.01%
    1 North_Italian 44.28%
    2 Udmurt 8.44%
    3 North_Swedish 8.25%
    4 Tuscan 7.32%
    5 Bedouin 7.23%
    6 Scottish 6.87%
    7 Druze 5.91%
    8 IE 5.51%
    9 French_Basque 4.27%
    10 AJ 1.91%

    IE = Eire (Ireland)
    AJ = Ashkenazi Jewish

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    1 North_Italian 35.92%
    2 AJ 22.50%
    3 East_Finnish 13.73%
    4 Scottish 8.96%
    5 DK 8.21%
    6 French_Basque 4.57%
    7 Moroccan 3.83%
    8 Druze 1.18%
    9 Bedouin 1.09%
    10 Tuscan 0.01%

    DK = Denmark

    Still pretty far off for me.
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    E1b-V13 England
    I1-M253 Ireland
    I2-M423 Ukraine
    R1a-L176.1 Scotland
    R1b-L584 Syria/Turkey
    R1b-L20 Ireland
    R1b-L21 (1)England; (2)Wales?>Connecticut
    R1b-L48 England
    R1b-P312 Scotland

    Other ancestral mtDNA lines:

    H1b2 Ukraine
    H6a1a3 Ukraine
    K1a9 Belarus
    K1c2 Ireland

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    Current results:

    EU Test

    Option 1
    1 Scottish 49.44%
    2 French_Basque 15.85%
    3 LIT 12.85%
    4 Cornish 12.00%
    5 North_Italian 4.68%
    6 FR 2.19%
    7 GE 1.23%
    8 Mozabite_Berber 1.17%
    9 Bedouin 0.59%

    Option 2
    1 Cornish 68.97%
    2 LIT 8.68%
    3 Scottish 8.15%
    4 French_Basque 7.06%
    5 Mozabite_Berber 3.91%
    6 GE 2.10%
    7 HU 1.11%
    8 ES 0.02%
    9 Moroccan 0.01%

    J-Test

    Option 1
    1 Scottish 49.25%
    2 French_Basque 16.94%
    3 LIT 13.07%
    4 Cornish 10.47%
    5 FR 4.89%
    6 AJ 2.85%
    7 GE 1.01%
    8 Mozabite_Berber 0.91%
    9 North_Italian 0.61%

    Option 2
    1 Cornish 64.52%
    2 LIT 9.46%
    3 Scottish 9.11%
    4 French_Basque 8.37%
    5 ES 3.08%
    6 GE 3.07%
    7 Orcadian 1.10%
    8 Mozabite_Berber 1.08%
    9 HU 0.21%

    The Lithuanian bit is really, really weird. I suppose there may be some Hanseatic connection with some of my German ancestry (which is largely northern), but I just in the end have to shrug at that one. The Berber/Bedouin stuff I have to assume is some residual dna material that follows along my mtDNA haplogroup or something....
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    Current Results:

    EU test (me)
    Option 1
    1 IE 45.73%
    2 English 25.85%
    3 LIT 10.40%
    4 Scottish 9.54%
    5 Sardinian 5.47%
    6 GE 3.01%

    EU Option 2 (me)
    1 Orcadian 48.40%
    2 NL 19.15%
    3 IE 8.88%
    4 South & Central Sweden 5.25%
    5 French Basque 3.62%
    6 LIT 3.18%
    7 GE 3.13%
    8 FR 2.99%
    9 UA 2.88%
    10 ES 1.99%

    EU Test Option 1 (my dad)
    1 English 39.87%
    2 NO 28.74%
    3 IE 24.74%
    4 Sardinian 4.24%
    5 GE 2.13%
    6 Kalash 0.96%

    EU Option 2 (my dad)
    1 English 73.50%
    2 IE 12.66%
    3 South & Central Sweden 3.62%
    4 NO 2.69%
    5 Kalash 1.98%
    6 Sardinian 1.68%
    7 Orcadian 1.68%
    8 DK 0.90%
    9 Lezgin 0.89%
    10 NL 0.39%

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    For Oracle-X, I think maybe the top #1-2 on the lists are reasonably ok. If the ethnicities themselves aren't right, at least they seem to be decent regionally. #3 or so and beyond on every list I've seen so far is largely inaccurate, though....sometimes, even if you're looking at the results in a regional/continuum context.

    The calculator seems to be designed to give 10 ethnicities, but I think that after a certain point, it's best to ignore the ethnicities that you share a really low score with. Even if it's the #3 ethnicity on your list. I mean, for example, is it really worth looking at one on your list that you only share a 1.89% similarity with?
    Last edited by Scarlet Ibis; 01-18-2013 at 11:07 PM. Reason: added more stuff

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    Pct. Calc. Option 1

    1 English 81.13%
    2 DK 14.95%
    3 Lezgin 1.80%
    4 Sardinian 1.02%
    5 Kalash 0.37%
    6 Luhya 0.29%
    7 GE 0.28%
    8 Maasai 0.16%
    9 Balochi 0.00%
    10 Selkup 0.00%

    Pct. Calc. Option 2

    1 English 81.52%
    2 NO 5.94%
    3 DK 5.87%
    4 Balochi 2.09%
    5 West_&_Central_German 1.56%
    6 NL 1.09%
    7 Sardinian 1.01%
    8 Maasai 0.48%
    9 GE 0.22%
    10 PT 0.22%

    Jtest Oracle-x:
    Pct. Calc. Option 1

    1 English 79.75%
    2 DK 16.02%
    3 AJ 2.22%
    4 Kalash 0.79%
    5 GE 0.42%
    6 Luhya 0.38%
    7 Sardinian 0.30%
    8 NO 0.09%
    9 Lezgin 0.03%
    10 Komi 0.00%

    Pct. Calc. Option 2

    1 English 78.12%
    2 DK 8.10%
    3 NO 4.90%
    4 AJ 4.38%
    5 NL 1.74%
    6 IE 1.37%
    7 Kalash 1.09%
    8 Orcadian 0.26%
    9 Luhya 0.02%
    10 Lezgin 0.01%

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    I am German (above all Northern) - I have expected at least a few Germans in the list ..... (I was told GE represents Georgia, not Germany)

    Pct. Calc. Option 1

    1 South_&_Central_Swedish 40.37%
    2 English 24.90%
    3 IE 19.20%
    4 LIT 9.15%
    5 Sardinian 4.00%
    6 GE 2.38%

    Pct. Calc. Option 2

    0 Unable to determine 0.01%
    1 NL 53.73%
    2 LIT 9.04%
    3 Orcadian 7.52%
    4 Cornish 7.32%
    5 IE 6.61%
    6 English 5.97%
    7 Northwest_Russian 5.94%
    8 GE 1.94%
    9 FR 1.92%

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    Ran it for the EUTest 5-22-2013.

    Oracle X -

    Pct. Calc. Option 1

    1 English 40.83%
    2 IE 28.51%
    3 DK 16.63%
    4 Sardinian 9.89%
    5 Lezgin 4.14%
    6 Serbian 0.00%
    7 Armenian 0.00%
    8 Komi 0.00%
    9 NO 0.00%
    10 Cornish 0.00%

    Total RMSD: 0.302365

    Pct. Calc. Option 2

    0 Unable to determine 0.01%
    1 Cornish 34.22%
    2 English 29.51%
    3 IE 7.30%
    4 Armenian 5.71%
    5 Sardinian 5.40%
    6 DK 5.34%
    7 NO 5.19%
    8 Komi 4.43%
    9 French_Basque 2.77%
    10 FR 0.11%
    Last edited by Telfermagne; 05-27-2013 at 11:39 PM. Reason: http://www.anthrogenica.com/usercp.php
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    EU Test

    # Population Percent
    1 SOUTH_BALTIC 18.55
    2 EAST_EURO 15.43
    3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.46
    4 ATLANTIC 24.33
    5 WEST_MED 9.47
    6 EAST_MED 0.00
    7 WEST_ASIAN 3.90
    8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.84
    9 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.02
    10 EAST_AFRICAN 0.00
    11 EAST_ASIAN 0.00
    12 SIBERIAN 0.00
    13 WEST_AFRICAN 0.00


    Pct. Calc. Option 2

    1 South_&_Central_Swedish 54.75%
    2 IE 11.34%
    3 Northwest_Russian 8.32%
    4 Scottish 6.73%
    5 French_Basque 6.18%
    6 West_Russian 5.03%
    7 Erzya 4.43%
    8 EE 2.14%
    9 Mozabite_Berber 1.05%
    10 North_Swedish 0.02%

    JTest

    # Population Percent
    1 SOUTH_BALTIC 18.50
    2 EAST_EURO 15.27
    3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.33
    4 ATLANTIC 24.07
    5 WEST_MED 9.20
    6 ASHKENAZI 1.77
    7 EAST_MED 0.00
    8 WEST_ASIAN 3.51
    9 MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.36
    10 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.00
    11 EAST_AFRICAN 0.00
    12 EAST_ASIAN 0.00
    13 SIBERIAN 0.00
    14 WEST_AFRICAN 0.00


    Pct. Calc. Option 2

    1 South_&_Central_Swedish 61.10%
    2 Northwest_Russian 8.95%
    3 Scottish 7.09%
    4 French_Basque 5.73%
    5 West_Russian 4.42%
    6 Mozabite_Berber 3.70%
    7 EE 2.93%
    8 HU 2.92%
    9 IE 2.07%
    10 Orcadian 1.10%

    Dunno why I always test so Swedish on the Eurogenes oracles... I guess it's just purely because if you combine all my ancestry, the average points to somewhere around Sweden...

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    EUtest
    Option 1:
    62.26% English
    26.23% South_&_Central_Swedish
    4.54% GE
    3.74% Mozabite_Berber
    1.65% FR
    1.54% LIT
    0.02% NL
    0.01% North_Italian
    0.01% Tuscan
    0.00% PT

    Total RMSD: 0.625493

    Option 2:
    0.02% Unable to determine
    27.36% NL
    22.75% West_&_Central_German
    22.09% English
    10.42% South_&_Central_Swedish
    6.83% NO
    4.23% GE
    4.02% Mozabite_Berber
    2.24% LIT
    0.01% PT
    0.00% Somali

    Total RMSD: 0.841005
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