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    Quote Originally Posted by Heber View Post
    The programme for the 2017 ISHG meeting to be held at Croke Park on Friday September 15th is available here.

    It includes a presentation of the Irish DNA Atlas

    S09. The Irish DNA Atlas; Revealing Fine Scale Population Structure and History within Ireland.
    EH Gilbert, S O’Reilly, M Merrigan, D McGettigan, AM Molloy, LC Brody, W Bodmer, K Hutnik, S Ennis, DJ Lawson, JF Wilson, GL Cavalleri

    http://irishsocietyofhumangenetics.blogspot.co.uk/

    Also included
    Keynote address: “Identifying the sources of the Icelandic gene pool” Prof. Agnar Helgasson, DeCode Genetics, Iceland

    S03. Cataloguing inherited disorders amongst the Irish Traveller population
    SA Lynch, E Crushell, N Byrne, K Gorman, M King, A Irvine, A Monavari, I Knerr, M Cotter, V McConnell, A Green, F Browne, D Lambert, J Turner, J Casey

    I plan to attend and will report back on any new developments.
    I see where it shows Ed Gilbert will speak on the Irish DNA Atlas at the Croke Park event on Sep. 15. In the message Maurice Gleeson gave me on the Irish DNA Facebook group, he didn't mention Croke Park. He also mentioned Roberta Estes as well as Ed Gilbert, and I saw the dates October 20-22, in Dublin. So to me, Maurice seemed to indicate the presentation of the Irish DNA Atlas results would be Oct. 20-22. However, looking at the link you provided, it appears that Gilbert will speak about the Irish DNA Atlas project on Sep. 15. I'm a little baffled why Maurice didn't mention Gilbert speaking about it on that date. Maybe Gilbert's speech at that time won't be a full reveal, and the full revelation will be Oct. 20-22?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spruithean View Post
    Fairly reasonable expectations I think.

    I'm interested to see the clusters, might give me an idea of how my Irish ancestors may have clustered. My ancestors from Ireland were a patchwork of various groups ranging from all over Ireland.
    I will also add, I think it'll give a strong hint that many of the Irish on AncestryDNA scoring 25%+ Great Britain may not have any British ancestry that is recently traceable, but accumulated over the last 1000 years. On that preliminary PCA plot I have been showing many times, if we use the Ulster 12 cluster as close to 'pure' Irish, then the people of Leinster on the same plot appear 1/3 to 1/2 British, Connacht about 1/4 to 1/3 British, and the other Munster cluster varying wildly, with the Ulster Protestants coming up almost indistinguishable from Scots.

    So I think it's likely that we will leave from this study seeing the Irish as being substantially mixed with Brits, with only isolated pockets of "pure" Irish left. And likely none of them will be in Leinster, Connacht, or the midlands.

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    Surely we can get the results posted here before they're published somehow? I just don't think I can wait until 2018
    Paper trail ancestry to the best of my knowledge:
    English 28.12%, East German or Eastern European 25%, Scottish 17.96%, Scotch-Irish 12.5%, French 8.2%, Welsh 3.125%, Native American 1.95%, and Colonial American, 3.125%, which cannot be determined with complete certainty: there is Dutch (at least 1.36%) and some English. The rest could include Spanish, Norwegian, German, and French, but these percentages would be minuscule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sktibo View Post
    Surely we can get the results posted here before they're published somehow? I just don't think I can wait until 2018
    I second that emotion...2018 is far too long!
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    I'd be cautious about building too much from the PCA plot, mainly as it doesn't include a contiental Germanic population (Dutch or for example Norwegian), we have to remember of course that the English are an admixed population. As a result they will always have some closeness to Irish people as this reflects the shared insular ancestry prior to Germanic input in the sub-roman period. I'm reminded of the paper which compared Ireland, UK, Danish and Swedish populations on a PCA



    As can be seen the 'UK' group has overlap with Ireland to certain extent but it's also 'drawn' towards the Netherlands/Danish populations due to shared ancestry.

    I imagine if you added Dutch sample into the PoBI/Irish-DNA Atlas you would see a chunk of the 'English' cluster shifting further away from Ireland (likewise for Orkney).

    the other PCA chart from that talk interesting enough spilt out some of the PoBI clusters, such as Borders, South Wales, North Wales etc.

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    What percentage did Irish people here get for Great Britain on AncestryDNA? I'm from Kildare and I got 11% Great Britain. I got 81% Irish. The only Genetic Community I belong to is Ulster Irish (Irish in the North Midlands).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cilldara View Post
    What percentage did Irish people here get for Great Britain on AncestryDNA? I'm from Kildare and I got 11% Great Britain. I got 81% Irish. The only Genetic Community I belong to is Ulster Irish (Irish in the North Midlands).
    What was the rest of your score?

    You're from the more historically English influenced part of Ireland so it is not surprising it gives you 1/8 British, but I am curious about the remainder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    What was the rest of your score?

    You're from the more historically English influenced part of Ireland so it is not surprising it gives you 1/8 British, but I am curious about the remainder.
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    I always seem get the Finland or Baltic region. I'm 5% Finland on FTDNA and 9% Baltic on MyHeritage. I don't get anything from that region on 23andMe, but I do get 4% Broadly Northwestern European.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cilldara View Post
    Finland/Northwest Russia - 3%
    Europe West - 2%
    Scandinavia - 2%
    Italy/Greece - 1%

    I always seem get the Finland or Baltic region. I'm 5% Finland on FTDNA and 9% Baltic on MyHeritage. I don't get anything from that region on 23andMe, but I do get 4% Broadly Northwestern European.
    Hi cilldara - Could you add your Ancestry results to this thread if you don't mind?

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...-across-Europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie View Post
    Hi cilldara - Could you add your Ancestry results to this thread if you don't mind?

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...-across-Europe
    Yeah, no problem. I've added them.

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