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    Quote Originally Posted by C J Wyatt III View Post
    Thank you, Baltimore1937.

    Family Finder does not give you anything close to the true number of your X-DNA connections. If you were able to upload to GEDmatch, I think you would find a bunch more. My mother gets a whole lot of X-DNA matches, so I would be curious to compare. It's a long shot, but by chance do you have anyone with my surname on your FF match list?

    Jack Wyatt
    Hi Jack,

    I didn't get back to this thread for a while.

    I have just one FF surnames match with "Wyatt". She gives a long list of surnames that includes Wyatt, and says all of her known origins are from the British Isles. Her own last name is not Wyatt. It looks like she may be connected to my direct maternal line in some way.
    Last edited by Baltimore1937; 08-05-2015 at 01:25 AM.

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    I think I found only a few in Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimore1937 View Post
    I only have 13 (I think it is) X-matches after all these years. I recently got the 13th one. It is to a female in Norway (email address in Norway). Her apparent brother or close relative with the same surname also came in, but he is only an FF match (no X-match). Said female is also an FF match. That is the only basic facts I have.

    My Norwegian ancestry is entirely from my father. I am assuming that this Norwegian X-match is not related to him, since I did not get a X chromosome from my dad. So this X-match must be from my mother's side. According to the family tree I constructed for myself, the only way that X-match could happen is via a line going back to Delaware Swedes in colonial times. I notice one line is given as coming from Varmland province on the Norwegian border.

    I am tickled pink to find as many as I have found, but even more so with the family tree on family search website. I did this one to see what my DNA shows. Can anyone help me understand this?
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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 32.59
    2 Atlantic 27.94
    3 Baltic 11.25
    4 West_Med 10.77
    5 Eastern_Euro 8.65
    6 West_Asian 3.12
    7 East_Med 2.89
    8 Red_Sea 1.93
    9 Oceanian 0.5
    10 Northeast_African 0.21
    11 Amerindian 0.11
    12 Sub-Saharan 0.04

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Southwest_English 3.31
    2 South_Dutch 3.41
    3 Southeast_English 4.07
    4 North_German 5.33
    5 Irish 5.66
    6 North_Dutch 5.99
    7 Danish 6.12
    8 West_Scottish 6.27
    9 West_German 6.46
    10 French 7.7
    11 Orcadian 7.71
    12 Norwegian 9.18
    13 Swedish 10.13
    14 West_Norwegian 10.48
    15 East_German 10.48
    16 North_Swedish 12.14
    17 Austrian 14.1
    18 Hungarian 15.09
    19 Spanish_Cataluna 15.23
    20 Southwest_Finnish 15.34

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 75.3% North_Dutch + 24.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.32
    2 75.7% North_Dutch + 24.3% Southwest_French @ 1.33
    3 76.9% North_Dutch + 23.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.5
    4 78.4% North_Dutch + 21.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.53
    5 82.8% Southwest_English + 17.2% Austrian @ 1.56
    6 73.8% North_Dutch + 26.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.58
    7 76.8% North_Dutch + 23.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.59
    8 77.5% North_Dutch + 22.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.59
    9 72.4% North_Dutch + 27.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.64
    10 75.5% North_Dutch + 24.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.66
    11 87.2% Southwest_English + 12.8% Croatian @ 1.72
    12 74.2% North_Dutch + 25.8% Portuguese @ 1.84
    13 75.6% North_Dutch + 24.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.84
    14 86.8% Southwest_English + 13.2% Serbian @ 1.85
    15 84.5% Southwest_English + 15.5% Hungarian @ 1.85
    16 51.1% Southwest_English + 48.9% South_Dutch @ 1.86
    17 65.2% South_Dutch + 34.8% Irish @ 1.87
    18 67.9% South_Dutch + 32.1% West_Scottish @ 1.9
    19 75.3% Danish + 24.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.91
    20 88.6% Southwest_English + 11.4% Moldavian @ 1.91

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    Don't assume because your X match is in Norway that she has only Norwegian ancestry. Many Norwegians have other ancestry too. (Edit: I see the original post is from a year ago. But this still holds true.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebecca View Post
    I am tickled pink to find as many as I have found, but even more so with the family tree on family search website. I did this one to see what my DNA shows. Can anyone help me understand this?
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    These look like the results of someone with modern northwestern European ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebecca View Post
    I am tickled pink to find as many as I have found, but even more so with the family tree on family search website. I did this one to see what my DNA shows. Can anyone help me understand this?
    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 32.59
    2 Atlantic 27.94
    3 Baltic 11.25
    4 West_Med 10.77
    5 Eastern_Euro 8.65
    6 West_Asian 3.12
    7 East_Med 2.89
    8 Red_Sea 1.93
    9 Oceanian 0.5
    10 Northeast_African 0.21
    11 Amerindian 0.11
    12 Sub-Saharan 0.04

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Southwest_English 3.31
    2 South_Dutch 3.41
    3 Southeast_English 4.07
    4 North_German 5.33
    5 Irish 5.66
    6 North_Dutch 5.99
    7 Danish 6.12
    8 West_Scottish 6.27
    9 West_German 6.46
    10 French 7.7
    11 Orcadian 7.71
    12 Norwegian 9.18
    13 Swedish 10.13
    14 West_Norwegian 10.48
    15 East_German 10.48
    16 North_Swedish 12.14
    17 Austrian 14.1
    18 Hungarian 15.09
    19 Spanish_Cataluna 15.23
    20 Southwest_Finnish 15.34

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 75.3% North_Dutch + 24.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.32
    2 75.7% North_Dutch + 24.3% Southwest_French @ 1.33
    3 76.9% North_Dutch + 23.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.5
    4 78.4% North_Dutch + 21.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.53
    5 82.8% Southwest_English + 17.2% Austrian @ 1.56
    6 73.8% North_Dutch + 26.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.58
    7 76.8% North_Dutch + 23.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.59
    8 77.5% North_Dutch + 22.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.59
    9 72.4% North_Dutch + 27.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.64
    10 75.5% North_Dutch + 24.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.66
    11 87.2% Southwest_English + 12.8% Croatian @ 1.72
    12 74.2% North_Dutch + 25.8% Portuguese @ 1.84
    13 75.6% North_Dutch + 24.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.84
    14 86.8% Southwest_English + 13.2% Serbian @ 1.85
    15 84.5% Southwest_English + 15.5% Hungarian @ 1.85
    16 51.1% Southwest_English + 48.9% South_Dutch @ 1.86
    17 65.2% South_Dutch + 34.8% Irish @ 1.87
    18 67.9% South_Dutch + 32.1% West_Scottish @ 1.9
    19 75.3% Danish + 24.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.91
    20 88.6% Southwest_English + 11.4% Moldavian @ 1.91
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    If I have 1% of Ashkenazi ( it was 1.5% but seems to be lowering every year ) in my X-Chr ...........how old would that be ( or number of Generations )?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    If I have 1% of Ashkenazi ( it was 1.5% but seems to be lowering every year ) in my X-Chr ...........how old would that be ( or number of Generations )?
    I have seen numbers all over the place with X chromosome as regards parent/child transmission and cousin matches, so presumably ethnic aspects are the same. Apart from the obvious male versus female inheritance rules, the inheritance of any segment per generation (female to anyone) can be from 0-100%.
    The most plausible estimations for my matches come from GEDmatch, when you ask it to predict the linkage between matches on the X.
    But that is applying averages. And it depends very much how often males are involved in the line.
    I think that is one of the Tier 1 tools.

    Presumably your 1% could reasonably be narrowed to something probably more than n generations ago, and maybe even suggest a specific number, but the error estimate will be huge.
    Last edited by Saetro; 06-28-2016 at 06:12 AM.

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