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Thread: YFull's New Rate Constant for Y-Chromosome SNPs based on Full Sequence Data

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    Getting some result by Expected date: 04/19/2015, a couple of days earlier.

    MJost
    148326, FGC-0FW1R, YSID6 & YF3272 R-DF13>FGC5494>*7448>*5496>*5521>*5511>*5539>*5538>* 5508>*5524
     
    Watterson USA GD1/67 & GD3/111, *5508+. GD1ís fatherís sister-23andme pred. 3rd Cous w/ 0.91% DNA shared-3 seg. Largest on Chr1 w/non-Euro admix affirms my NPE paternal Watterson line via aDNA & YDNA. A 2nd pred. 4th cous has same DKA b. 1840's Georgia and MDKA d 1703 IOM. 3rd Cousin FtDNA FF is from the Watterson Ala. *5538+ b. IOM w/ GD6/67 & GD8/111 -SGD3. FGC5539+ a Scot-Ross GD13/111 -SGD8

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    Iff all of the U152+ people and all the DF27+ people have this genetic indicator -- and nobody else does -- it's probably defining that part of the phylogeny.
    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    But they don't. I have posted my cousin's results in the ZZ11 thread.
    Well, that's why I spelled "iff" with two fs (meaning "if and only if"). But I ran this by Alex, and his comment Monday was:

    I think the mutation remains valid. It's in a bad spot, so it's very reasonable that it won't last forever in all lines. I assume there must be some branch downstream of Z49 which should all be negative.
    That's an allusion to lgmayka's cousin, mentioned on the ZZ11 thread, who is Z49*: http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...ll=1#post76927

    We know of one example (a Plant family) in which the ZZ12_1 mutation (that essentially defines the Z195- subclades of DF27) has disappeared, presumably via back-mutation at the same locus, since other families with the same SNP ancestry still have it. On the other hand there is a cluster of Ashkenazi families in which that same mutation (on a palindrome arm) has copied itself, so they are just plain ZZ12 -- can be read on either arm. Also, my subgroup Bbbb in the DF27 project -- first identified by one L. G. Mayka, who announced it four years ago on DNAForums after he noticed its quirky STR patterns in one family of his Polish project -- has been traveling on a suspect L484+ passport for most of those four years. Sure enough, recent BigY testing has spotted a new member of the group who has the STR pattern, but tests L484-. This appears to be another back-mutation, of a SNP that's known to be "recurrent." Luckily my FGC Elite test found several more stable SNPs to substitute for L484, and four of us have confirmed them with matching BigY results.

    In time the Rockies may crumble, Gibraltar may tumble -- they're only made of clay. But. ZZ11_1 really only needed to be stable prior to the birth of U152 and DF27; and I think it most likely was.
    Last edited by razyn; 04-15-2015 at 12:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJost View Post
    Getting some result by Expected date: 04/19/2015, a couple of days earlier.

    MJost
    My YFULL FGC BAM file data results that just showed up today.

    ChrY BAM file size: 1.62 Gb
    Reads (all): 13514863
    Mapped reads: 13323583 (98.58%)
    Unmapped reads: 191280 (1.42%)
    Length coverage: 22938415 bp (89.42%)
    Min depth coverage: 1X
    Max depth coverage: 7998X
    Mean depth coverage: 52.78X
    Median depth coverage: 27X
    Length coverage for age: 8402506 bp
    No call: 2715151 bp

    MJost
    148326, FGC-0FW1R, YSID6 & YF3272 R-DF13>FGC5494>*7448>*5496>*5521>*5511>*5539>*5538>* 5508>*5524
     
    Watterson USA GD1/67 & GD3/111, *5508+. GD1ís fatherís sister-23andme pred. 3rd Cous w/ 0.91% DNA shared-3 seg. Largest on Chr1 w/non-Euro admix affirms my NPE paternal Watterson line via aDNA & YDNA. A 2nd pred. 4th cous has same DKA b. 1840's Georgia and MDKA d 1703 IOM. 3rd Cousin FtDNA FF is from the Watterson Ala. *5538+ b. IOM w/ GD6/67 & GD8/111 -SGD3. FGC5539+ a Scot-Ross GD13/111 -SGD8

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