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    Quote Originally Posted by Trojet View Post
    Currently we only have two Tosk E-V13's and none have done SNP testing.

    The sample size is still too small, but so far North Albania and Kosova are mostly under E-S2979. While more central areas of Albania are mostly under E-CTS9320. We'll see how it unfolds in the future, including Tosk samples.
    So I received my Y37 results. As I suspected, No matches at Y37. I only match at Y12. How far back/significant is Y12? Also can people of different R1a clades match at 12 markers? because it seems scattered. Most of my matches at Y12 are German. Here are the attachments. I imagine since I have no matches at Y37, that Y67 would not yield a match?

    Just placed as M198. I imagine y67 will classify up to Z283.

    hmt y37.PNG

    12markers.PNG
    Last edited by Dibran; 10-17-2017 at 01:01 PM.
    Known Ancestry: Albanian
    23andme results: 94% Balkan, 0.9% Italian, 0.8% Middle Eastern, 2.2% broadly southern European, 0.3 British & Irish, 0.3% Japanese, 0.5% unassigned
    MyOrigins2.0: 100% Southeast European
    MyAncientOrigins: 62% Farmer, 24% Hunter Gatherer, 14% Metal Age Invader
    MyHeritage: 76% Greek, 16% Balkan, 8% Italian
    WeGene: 99.5% Balkan, 0.5% unassigned
    GenePlaza: 92.7% East Mediterranean, 5.2% Southwestern European, 1.5% Ambiguous
    DNA.LAND: 95% Balkan, 5% Sardinian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    So I received my Y37 results. As I suspected, No matches at Y37. I only match at Y12. How far back/significant is Y12? Also can people of different R1a clades match at 12 markers? because it seems scattered. Most of my matches at Y12 are German. Here are the attachments. I imagine since I have no matches at Y37, that Y67 would not yield a match?

    Just placed as M198. I imagine y67 will classify up to Z283.

    hmt y37.PNG

    12markers.PNG
    You are not very closely related to your 12 marker matches within a genealogical time frame (500 or so years ago) if you match with none of them at 37 markers. You are probably only related to your 12 marker matches many thousands of years ago. Indeed in some cases even 37 marker matches are not even related to each other within the last few thousand years. Exact or close matches at 37 markers are indeed usually closely related but 33/37 marker matches may only be related to each other over a thousand years ago. SNP testing is much more reliable overall than STR.
    Last edited by J Man; 10-17-2017 at 04:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    You are not very closely related to your 12 marker matches within a genealogical time frame (500 or so years ago) if you match with none of them at 37 markers. You are probably only related to your 12 marker matches many thousands of years ago. Indeed in some cases even 37 marker matches are not even related to each other within the last few thousand years. Exact or close matches at 37 markers are indeed usually closely related but 33/37 marker matches may only be related to each other over a thousand years ago. SNP testing is much more reliable overall than STR.
    Testing Yelite with fullgenomes. Yea, I don't have matches at 37, and according to admin my y67 is available but I can't see if there are any matches, and it still just has me at Y37-M198. R1a project predicted me as M458 YP515, but based on nevgen there is 62.6% Unknown. Idk how classifications are made with a low percentage reliability of placement. Assuming Yelite confirms their assumption, Who is this linked to? the TMRCA of YP515 is 2100 years.

    Nevgen predictor:

    62.6% Unsupported subclade

    13.3% R1a Z282>M458>> L1029>YP417
    13.0% R1a Z282>M458>> L1029>YP444
    11.2% R1a Z282>M458>> YP515-------------------------> Predicted by R1a Project
    Last edited by Dibran; 10-17-2017 at 05:02 PM.
    Known Ancestry: Albanian
    23andme results: 94% Balkan, 0.9% Italian, 0.8% Middle Eastern, 2.2% broadly southern European, 0.3 British & Irish, 0.3% Japanese, 0.5% unassigned
    MyOrigins2.0: 100% Southeast European
    MyAncientOrigins: 62% Farmer, 24% Hunter Gatherer, 14% Metal Age Invader
    MyHeritage: 76% Greek, 16% Balkan, 8% Italian
    WeGene: 99.5% Balkan, 0.5% unassigned
    GenePlaza: 92.7% East Mediterranean, 5.2% Southwestern European, 1.5% Ambiguous
    DNA.LAND: 95% Balkan, 5% Sardinian

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    One new 23andme result:
    Hoti, from (unknown right now)
    Haplogroup: J2b2-M241

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    New YSEQ result:

    Albanian, from Gostivar, Macedonia
    Haplogroup: R1a-M417>Z283>M458

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    One new ftDNA Y67 result from user Dibran

    Dibran, from Dibėr e Vogėl, Albania.
    Haplogroup: R1a-M417>Z283>M458?

    New YSEQ alpha-beta result:

    Thaqi, from Hade, Kosova.
    Haplogroup: R1b-CTS9219>BY611

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    Another Thaqi, tested with YSEQ:

    Thaqi from Kamenica, Kosova.
    Haplogroup: J2b2-L283>Z1296>PH2967 (under PH2967 seems PH1751)

    New result YSEQ:

    Sopi from Raince in Preshevo, Serbia.
    Haplogroup: E1b-V13>S2979>FGC33625

    He's in a group (E-FGC33625) that is found in most of Sopi and Berisha.
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