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    why has otzi data, always been excluded in similar tests recently?


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    There are a bunch of ancient genomes Davidski has left out of his spreadsheets. He posted Otzi and C01(Hungarian or similar age)'s results once, and they were very similar and had slightly more WHG than Neolithic farmers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krefter View Post
    How do I post the PCA Davidski gave me?
    Just take a screenshot of it.

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    West Eurasia K8

    ANE 13.72%
    SEA 2.83%
    Near Eastern 80.25%
    East Eurasian 0
    WHG 2.29%
    Oceanian 0.40%
    Pygmy 0.15%
    SSA 0.36%

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesus View Post



    David about my results:
    Sure, on the plots you cluster best with Iranians who overlap with Abkhasians.

    Your best matching populations based on the K8 results are Iranians, Azeris, Ossetians, Kurds, and Abkhasians.

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    Maybe Davidski can put a bunch of ancient genomes on a plot with Anthrogenica members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelticGerman View Post
    I have results for my two uncles (maternal and paternal side). My own result is not yet in, but should be somewhere between my uncles.

    My uncle paternal side: 43.76% WHG - 40.72% Near Eastern - 14.86% ANE - all other categories very low. He is in the southeast of Northwestern Europeans on the map (red dot).
    My uncle maternal side: 49.73% WHG - 35.12% Near Eastern - 14.89% ANE - all other categories very low. He is in the north of Northwestern Europeans on the map.

    This makes sense. They are both Germans from Hamburg. My uncle paternal side has around 47% known ancestry from Northern Germany. My uncle maternal side has around 96% known ancestry from Northern Germany and Denmark.
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    Wow your maternal uncle with most of his ancestry from Northern Germany and Denmark scores around as much WHG ancestry as Balts and Finns at 49.73%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krefter View Post
    Me, J man, leonardo, and leonardo's mother can fit as about 50% Armenian and Mesolithic Scandinavian(Motala12) in this test, like how Yamna could be modeled as 50% Armenian and 50% Mesolithic east European. This probably means we're around as Near eastern as Yamna was, and our only difference is we have a higher WHG-ANE ratio than they did.

    Theoretical
    Bell Beaker: red
    Corded ware: Yellow
    Yamna: Red

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9o...ZOZ01BMTA/view

    Bell Beaker is just north of us.
    On another forum that I am part of some people have managed to get an Oracle going for this K8 test. Here are my results below.

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Hungarian @ 1,989153
    2 Moldavian @ 2,382229
    3 Croatian @ 3,282455
    4 Serbian_Bosnia @ 4,17076
    5 Bosnian @ 4,582052
    6 French @ 5,29358
    7 Utah_USA @ 5,398204
    8 Utah_German @ 5,875677
    9 SW_English @ 5,982893
    10 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6,029166
    11 SE_English @ 6,061673
    12 West_Scottish @ 7,10401
    13 Orcadian @ 7,213489
    14 LBA_Hungary @ 7,807123
    15 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 7,983431
    16 Serbian @ 8,274124
    17 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 8,636359
    18 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 9,051567
    19 Utah_Scandinavian @ 9,511643
    20 Norwegian @ 9,524955
    163 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Estonian+Kosovar @ 1,28044
    2 Bulgarian+Polish_Estonian @ 1,282779
    3 Serbian+Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 1,318739
    4 Croatian+Moldavian @ 1,367529
    5 Serbian+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,463092
    6 Montenegrin+Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 1,472374
    7 Moldavian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,489366
    8 Serbian+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,499775
    9 Macedonian+Polish_Estonian @ 1,504673
    10 Bosnian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1,507002
    11 Hungarian+Moldavian @ 1,514221
    12 Polish_Estonian+Romanian @ 1,515035
    13 Bulgarian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,543468
    14 Belorussian+Bulgarian @ 1,599711
    15 Romanian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,612086
    16 Belorussian+Romanian @ 1,625737
    17 Montenegrin+Russian_Kursk @ 1,638873
    18 Montenegrin+Russian_Orel @ 1,722304
    19 Macedonian+Russian_Kursk @ 1,729655
    20 Montenegrin+Russian_Voronez @ 1,742351
    13366 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Lithuanian +25% Gokhem2 +25% Ossetian @ 0,803831
    2 50% Adygei +25% French +25% Loschbour @ 0,887654
    3 50% Adygei +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Loschbour @ 0,888093
    4 50% Estonian +25% Gokhem2 +25% Ossetian @ 0,976488
    5 50% Ukrainian_Kharkov +25% East_Sicilian +25% Polish_Estonian @ 1,044398
    6 50% Serbian +25% Azeri +25% Motala12 @ 1,05282
    7 50% Ukrainian_Kharkov +25% Polish_Estonian +25% West_Sicilian @ 1,054377
    8 50% Montenegrin +25% Azeri +25% Motala12 @ 1,074797
    9 50% Ukrainian_Kharkov +25% Kosovar +25% Moldavian @ 1,075733
    10 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Moksha +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,078831
    11 50% Ukrainian_Kharkov +25% Bosnian +25% Bulgarian @ 1,08183
    12 50% Moldavian +25% Estonian +25% Tuscan @ 1,084444
    13 50% Ukrainian_Kharkov +25% Greek +25% Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 1,09135
    14 50% Ukrainian_Kharkov +25% Central_Greek +25% Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 1,094313
    15 50% Estonian +25% Serbian_Bosnia +25% South_Italian @ 1,101893
    16 50% Estonian +25% Bosnian +25% East_Sicilian @ 1,10509
    17 50% Estonian +25% Bosnian +25% South_Italian @ 1,106226
    18 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Bosnian +25% Moksha @ 1,118918
    19 50% Polish_Estonian +25% South_Italian +25% Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 1,119942
    20 50% Ukrainian_Lviv +25% East_Sicilian +25% Estonian @ 1,133831
    1258129 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Georgian_Laz+Kumyk+Loschbour+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,634553
    2 Estonian+Gokhem2+Lithuanian+Ossetian @ 0,648247
    3 Chechen+Kumyk+Loschbour+Spanish_Cantabria @ 0,660574
    4 Armenian+Kumyk+Loschbour+Polish_Estonian @ 0,664812
    5 Belorussian+Georgian_Laz+Kumyk+Loschbour @ 0,667665
    6 Georgian_Laz+Kabardin+Loschbour+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,67239
    7 Belorussian+Georgian_Laz+Kabardin+Loschbour @ 0,685839
    8 Kabardin+Lezgin+Loschbour+Spanish_Cantabria @ 0,688949
    9 Gokhem2+Kumyk+Lithuanian+Polish_Estonian @ 0,689263
    10 Chechen+Kabardin+Loschbour+Spanish_Cantabria @ 0,693104
    11 Bulgarian+Motala12+Ossetian+Spanish_Castilla_La_Ma ncha @ 0,705312
    12 Georgian_Laz+Kabardin+Loschbour+Polish_Estonian @ 0,708511
    13 Kabardin+Lezgin+Loschbour+Spanish_Aragon @ 0,716594
    14 Gokhem2+Kabardin+Lithuanian+Polish_Estonian @ 0,719845
    15 French+Loschbour+Tabassaran+Turkish @ 0,722897
    16 Georgian_Laz+Kumyk+Loschbour+Polish @ 0,724082
    17 Georgian_Laz+Kumyk+Loschbour+Swedish @ 0,730404
    18 Kabardin+Lezgin+Loschbour+Spanish_Valencia @ 0,73128
    19 Chechen+Kabardin+Loschbour+Spanish_Cataluna @ 0,73231
    20 Gokhem2+Kumyk+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,732622
    21 Georgian_Laz+Kumyk+Loschbour+Polish_Estonian @ 0,73459
    22 Estonian+Gokhem2+Kumyk+Swedish @ 0,740966
    23 Adygei+Estonian+Iranian_Jewish+Loschbour @ 0,750731
    24 Chechen+Hungarian+Loschbour+Turkish @ 0,750828
    25 Armenian+Estonian+Loschbour+Ossetian @ 0,755879
    26 Georgian_Laz+Kabardin+Loschbour+Polish @ 0,757019
    27 Bulgarian+Motala12+Ossetian+Spanish_Andalucia @ 0,757599
    28 Kumyk+Lezgin+Loschbour+Spanish_Aragon @ 0,758443
    29 Balkar+Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+Polish_Estonian @ 0,76016
    30 Balkar+Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,761316
    31 Croatian+Loschbour+Tabassaran+Turkish @ 0,761358
    32 Adygei+LBA_Hungary+Loschbour+Ossetian @ 0,763653
    33 Belorussian+Gokhem2+Kumyk+Lithuanian @ 0,764437
    34 Bulgarian+Motala12+Ossetian+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leo n @ 0,766639
    35 Azeri+Greek_Thessaly+Motala12+SW_English @ 0,769465
    36 Azeri+LBA_Hungary+Loschbour+Tabassaran @ 0,77011
    37 Georgian_Laz+Kabardin+Loschbour+Russian_Voronez @ 0,771245
    38 Chechen+Kumyk+Loschbour+Spanish_Cataluna @ 0,773356
    39 Chechen+Kumyk+Loschbour+Spanish_Valencia @ 0,775222
    40 Iranian_Jewish+Lithuanian+Loschbour+North_Ossetian @ 0,781906
    6184884 iterations.


    Gaussian method.
    Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Croatian @ 0,432315
    2 Bosnian @ 0,764873
    3 Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,016378
    4 Hungarian @ 1,587376
    5 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2,585027
    6 SE_English @ 2,899306
    7 Utah_USA @ 3,142233
    8 SW_English @ 3,190567
    9 Moldavian @ 3,215894
    10 Serbian @ 3,257129
    11 Utah_German @ 3,378726
    12 Orcadian @ 3,599428
    13 Norwegian @ 3,683877
    14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3,766304
    15 French @ 3,793873
    16 West_Scottish @ 3,821845
    17 Montenegrin @ 3,917663
    18 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 3,946267
    19 Utah_Scandinavian @ 4,135696
    20 Swedish @ 4,507415
    163 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Macedonian+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,075012
    2 Serbian_Bosnia+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,124886
    3 Macedonian+Norwegian @ 0,125127
    4 Macedonian+Polish_Estonian @ 0,150777
    5 Macedonian+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 0,155404
    6 Montenegrin+Norwegian @ 0,155707
    7 Macedonian+Swedish @ 0,156921
    8 Montenegrin+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 0,160361
    9 Bosnian+SE_English @ 0,164934
    10 Montenegrin+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,166041
    11 Montenegrin+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,16781
    12 Bulgarian+Norwegian @ 0,16872
    13 Serbian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,168744
    14 Bosnian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,170333
    15 Norwegian+Serbian @ 0,17226
    16 Hungarian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,17934
    17 Bosnian+Norwegian @ 0,184662
    18 Macedonian+Russian_Orel @ 0,184882
    19 Bulgarian+Swedish @ 0,186081
    20 Belorussian+Macedonian @ 0,200117
    13366 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Russian_Orel +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,04472
    2 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Bosnian +25% Russian_Orel @ 0,055113
    3 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Croatian +25% Russian_Orel @ 0,055318
    4 50% Russian_Smolensk +25% Kosovar +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,056138
    5 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Polish_Estonian +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,05638
    6 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Bosnian +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 0,056787
    7 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Russian_Smolensk +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,057555
    8 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Russian_Smolensk +25% Serbian @ 0,059351
    9 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Montenegrin +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 0,061968
    10 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Bosnian +25% Polish_Estonian @ 0,064688
    11 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Montenegrin +25% Polish_Estonian @ 0,064873
    12 50% Bosnian +25% Russian_Smolensk +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,065093
    13 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Macedonian +25% Polish_Estonian @ 0,065426
    14 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Russian_Orel +25% Serbian @ 0,065589
    15 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Montenegrin +25% Russian_Orel @ 0,066639
    16 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Croatian +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 0,067123
    17 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Polish_Estonian +25% Serbian @ 0,067735
    18 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Macedonian +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 0,06865
    19 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Macedonian +25% Russian_Orel @ 0,068766
    20 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Croatian +25% Polish_Estonian @ 0,068956
    1787163 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Abkhasian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Russian_Orel @ 0,030844
    2 Abkhasian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish_Estoni an @ 0,037343
    3 Abkhasian+Motala12+Russian_Orel+Stuttgart @ 0,037864
    4 Abkhasian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Russian_Smole nsk @ 0,040023
    5 Abkhasian+Motala12+Polish_Estonian+Stuttgart @ 0,041664
    6 Adygei+Motala12+Norwegian+Stuttgart @ 0,041719
    7 Motala12+Norwegian+Ossetian+Stuttgart @ 0,043383
    8 Chechen+Motala12+Russian_Orel+Stuttgart @ 0,043979
    9 Russian_Orel+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian _Bosnia @ 0,04472
    10 Abkhasian+Motala12+Russian_Smolensk+Stuttgart @ 0,045884
    11 Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Ossetian+SE_English @ 0,046057
    12 Adygei+Motala12+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 0,047477
    13 Motala12+Ossetian+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 0,048555
    14 Adygei+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,048783
    15 Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Norwegian+Ossetian @ 0,049482
    16 Adygei+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English @ 0,050127
    17 Chechen+Hungarian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary @ 0,052268
    18 Abkhasian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Russian_Kursk @ 0,052386
    19 Adygei+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Norwegian @ 0,052972
    20 Adygei+Motala12+Stuttgart+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,054237
    21 Adygei+Croatian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary @ 0,054247
    22 Adygei+Motala12+Russian_Smolensk+Stuttgart @ 0,054525
    23 Bosnian+Russian_Orel+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,055113
    24 Motala12+Ossetian+Stuttgart+Swedish @ 0,055285
    25 Croatian+Russian_Orel+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosni a @ 0,055318
    26 Motala12+Ossetian+Polish+Stuttgart @ 0,055372
    27 Chechen+Hungarian+Motala12+Stuttgart @ 0,055983
    28 Kosovar+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Smolensk+Serbian_ Bosnia @ 0,056138
    29 Adygei+Motala12+Stuttgart+Swedish @ 0,056219
    30 Polish_Estonian+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosnia+Serb ian_Bosnia @ 0,05638
    31 Bosnian+Russian_Smolensk+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bo snia @ 0,056787
    32 Adygei+Motala12+Polish+Stuttgart @ 0,056858
    33 Russian_Smolensk+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosnia+Ser bian_Bosnia @ 0,057555
    34 Adygei+Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+Norwegian @ 0,057773
    35 Chechen+Motala12+Russian_Smolensk+Stuttgart @ 0,058264
    36 Adygei+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,058354
    37 Abkhasian+Estonian+Motala12+Stuttgart @ 0,059131
    38 Russian_Smolensk+Serbian+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bo snia @ 0,059351
    39 Kosovar+Norwegian+Russian_Orel+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,060056
    40 Adygei+Motala12+Stuttgart+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 0,060308
    17162834 iterations.

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