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    Quote Originally Posted by epoch View Post
    I just found out that Tiefbrunn Corded Ware sample RISE436's Y-DNA never was published as R1a. Mathieson 2015 had CT, Allentoft 2015 had R1. Mathieson 2017 has R1b1.

    R1b1:L1349:22722580T->C; R:CTS7880:17723850C->T
    It“s apparently R1a1, still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    So, that's accurate then, RISE436 was R1b1?

    That's important news.
    Genetiker had him as R1a. If he reads this, would he be so kind and check that sample again?

    Edit: R. Rocca found R1a as well. See post above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by epoch View Post
    Genetiker had him as R1a. If he reads this, would he be so kind and check that sample again?

    Edit: R. Rocca found R1a as well. See post above.
    Yes, it would be good to know these things for sure. Although one of the datasets published by Genetiker shows R1b North European Bell Beaker populations with an average 87% autosomal match to R1a Corded Ware populations and an average 87% match to other North European Bell Beaker populations. So as the North European R1a and R1b populations appear pretty much indistinguishable except for their paternal lines, I wonder whether an identification one way or the other is quite as significant as it first seems.

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