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    Apparently I am an anti-Latvian "racist", too, since I pointed out something I am supposed to lack the brain power to notice, i.e., that the Latvian P297s lived 4,000 years after the mrca of P297. That means their existence cannot tell us where P297 originated, only that it was in NE Europe near the Baltic about 9,000 years ago.
     


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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    I trust you read my post.

    Here it is.

    Do I need to repeat that Villabruna was NOT P297 at a time when P297 was already in existence for over a thousand years? That is a fact.
    It's also a fact that P297 is missing from the Samara valley or Siberia at this point too
    In fact, neither the Baltic nor Caspian steppe were inhabited at this time; but were soon to be so. But this came from the Caucasus-black sea/ Carpathian region, according to prevailing theories


    You said you would leave me to my veneration (whatever that meant)
    Yes you joke about statues of Marija, I was merely playing at that . Nothing sinister

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravetto-Danubian View Post
    It's also a fact that P297 is missing from the Samara valley or Siberia at this point too
    In fact, neither the Baltic nor Caspian steppe were inhabited at this time; but were soon to be so. But this came from the Caucasus-black sea/ Carpathian region, according to prevailing theories
    Okay, but not a lot of digging has been done anywhere.

    You and I should get along famously. I don't get why we don't.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gravetto-Danubian View Post
    Yes you joke about statues of Marija, I was merely playing at that . Nothing sinister
    Ah. In that case, that was well said. I just did not get what you were driving at. I do kind of venerate her, it's true.
     


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    I'm passing around the electronic foaming horn of mead. Peace be upon all the descendants of the Bell Beaker people, which means pretty much everybody.



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