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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Felipe View Post
    the Cameroon/Congo category could be a tell-tale sign i suppose to distinguish the more archetypical Yoruba from the averaged out Igbo, however it's important to stress that even within ethnic groups you will find MUCH individual variation.
    More sampling needs to be done however sofar this assumption seems to be valid. More discussion and background information for below findings (based on 15 Nigerian AncestryDNA results) via this link:













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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Felipe View Post
    Two Horner results, basically showing a combination of SE Bantu, North African and Middle East. No doubt SE Bantu became the default SSA category for Horners because in absence of a category based on Nilotic (Maasai) samples it will be the least distant SSA cluster for them on Ancestry. It won't be actual Bantu ancestry of course .
    This still rings true.


    Quote Originally Posted by Don Felipe View Post

    There's also North African being shown, which seems to be the most predictive/reliable African category on Ancestry right now together with Senegal, even though it's only based on 26 samples
    However i'm not too sure anymore about the predictiveness of the socalled "Africa North" region on AncestryDNA. It seems to be heavily conflated with the Iberian region. When reported it could still be a valid finding but in many cases it might also just signal VERY ancient genetic similarity with North Africa.


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    Do you have any results of Senegambians, Malians, Guinea Bissau or Conakry such as those of Wolof, Serer, Jola with fully West African composition without any North African?

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    OMG double post again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsakhur View Post
    Do you have any results of Senegambians, Malians, Guinea Bissau or Conakry such as those of Wolof, Serer, Jola with fully West African composition without any North African?

    i'm sharing with several Senegambian people on 23andme but most of them do in fact show some minor North AFrican or East African component, although often quite minimal. However 1 Mandinga from Guinea Bissau is practically 100% SSA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Felipe View Post
    i'm sharing with several Senegambian people on 23andme but most of them do in fact show some minor North AFrican or East African component, although often quite minimal. However 1 Mandinga from Guinea Bissau is practically 100% SSA.
    Interesting. Do you know the ethnicity or tribal group of these Senegambians? How minimal are the minor components? Is their East African component something Nlotic/Nilo-Saharan or Horner type?

    Can also you post the results of these Senegambians including the 1 Mandinka from Guinea Bissau who is 100% SSA please? Btw are there also gedmatch results of them?

    Thank you and regards!

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    You can see some of them already on this page:

    https://tracingafricanroots.wordpress.com/east-africa/

    I believe the socalled "East African" reported for them represents some very ancient component, quite possibly Nilotic in origin, but other explanations might also be valid. I have seen two Senegambian AncestryDNA results sofar, 1 Fula and 1 predom. Wolof person from Gambia. I will post them later on this week, as well as the Guinea Bissau result
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsakhur View Post
    Can also you post the results of these Senegambians including the 1 Mandinka from Guinea Bissau who is 100% SSA please? Btw are there also gedmatch results of them?
    I do not have their Gedmatch, however here's some Senegambian results. Second one is mainly Wolof from Gambia but most likely also partially Krio or Aku which would explain the minor Benin/Togo. The missing 1% for the Guinean is mostly S.European while it is Middle East for the Gambian.


    Guiné Bissau






    Gambia (Wolof/Aku?)




    Fula

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    This Fula has a big non-SSA admixture. Does he/she come from a region close to Berber people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Felipe View Post
    I do not have their Gedmatch, however here's some Senegambian results. Second one is mainly Wolof from Gambia but most likely also partially Krio or Aku which would explain the minor Benin/Togo. The missing 1% for the Guinean is mostly S.European while it is Middle East for the Gambian.


    Guiné Bissau






    Gambia (Wolof/Aku?)




    Fula

    Thank you! Is the Guinean with mostly 1% South European, the Mandinka from Guinea Bissau? Because I initially thought you mention that the Mandinka sample is 100% SSA.
    Is the Middle East in Gambian include in the North African category?

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