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    Quote Originally Posted by Verj-nu-armu View Post
    The Indo-Iranian component here is greatest in the Kalash (~84%) by an extremely large margin, of the order of approx. 75%. Those populations with >5% tend to sit around South-Central Asia.

    Based on this, the Indo-Iranian component doesn't appear to be any more informative than the "Kalash" component (which it basically is) seen in other projects. Dienekes' dissection of the Kalash found them to be a mixed West-South Asian population with a slither of North European.

    Although, to be fair, it is as specific to modern Indo-Iranian speakers as one can get on an auDNA component breakdown given others overlap greatly with neighbouring regional phenomena (i.e. West Asian or NE European components).

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    MDLP World

    Population
    Caucaus_Parsia 39.87%
    Middle_East 31.56%
    Indian 1.92%
    South_and_West_European 25.76%
    Melanesian 0.60%
    Sub_Saharian -
    North_and_East_European -
    Arctic_Amerind -
    East_Asian -
    Paleo_African 0.20%
    Mesoamerican -
    North_Asian 0.08%

    MDLP World-22

    Population
    Pygmyn -
    West-Asian 44.68%
    North-European-Mesolithic -
    Indo-Tibetan -
    Mesoamerican -
    Arctic-Amerind -
    South-America_Amerind -
    Indian 1.41%
    North-Siberean 0.49%
    Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 24.74%
    Samoedic -
    Indo-Iranian 0.91%
    East-Siberean -
    North-East-European 1.42%
    South-African 0.27%
    North-Amerind -
    Sub-Saharian -
    East-South-Asian -
    Near_East 25.62%
    Melanesian 0.45%
    Paleo-Siberian -
    Austronesian -



    Does anyone know what reference populations, are used for these calculators?

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    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 33.22
    2 North-East-European 30.12
    3 West-Asian 18.1
    4 Near_East 13.81
    5 North-European-Mesolithic 1.91
    6 Sub-Saharian 1
    7 Indian 0.95
    8 Samoedic 0.27
    9 Indo-Iranian 0.26
    10 Indo-Tibetan 0.11
    11 Pygmy 0.11
    12 Melanesian 0.1
    13 South-African 0.03
    14 Austronesian 0.02


    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 59.2% Greek_Cretan (derived) + 40.8% German-North (derived) @ 1.6
    2 56.5% German_V (derived) + 43.5% Cypriot (derived) @ 1.62
    3 56.5% German_V (derived) + 43.5% Jew_Syria (derived) @ 1.66
    4 56.5% Austrian (derived) + 43.5% Cypriot (derived) @ 1.68
    5 81.6% Greek_South (derived) + 18.4% German (derived) @ 1.7
    6 84% Greek_South (derived) + 16% Swedish_V (derived) @ 1.78
    7 51.8% German-North (derived) + 48.2% Cypriot (derived) @ 1.8
    8 54.8% CEU_V (derived) + 45.2% Cypriot (derived) @ 1.8

    9 54.4% Greek_Cretan (derived) + 45.6% Hungarian (derived) @ 1.81
    10 89.4% Greek_South (derived) + 10.6% Estonian (derived) @ 1.83
    11 66.8% German-South (derived) + 33.2% Syrian (derived) @ 1.85
    12 83% Greek_Center (derived) + 17% Estonian (derived) @ 1.86
    13 83.2% Greek_South (derived) + 16.8% Swedish (derived) @ 1.87
    14 82.7% Greek_South (derived) + 17.3% German-North (derived) @ 1.88
    15 54.8% CEU_V (derived) + 45.2% Jew_Syria (derived) @ 1.9
    16 87.7% Greek_South (derived) + 12.3% Russian_North (derived) @ 1.92
    17 87.9% Greek_South (derived) + 12.1% Inkeri (derived) @ 1.92
    18 82.2% Greek_South (derived) + 17.8% Croatian_V (derived) @ 1.94
    19 79.4% Italian-Center (derived) + 20.6% Estonian (derived) @ 1.95
    20 76.3% Italian-Center (derived) + 23.7% Moldavian (derived) @ 1.95

    In bold are the ones I either like, find realistic, or just meaningful.

    The original World results.


    # Population Percent
    1 South_and_West_European 41.13
    2 North_and_East_European 23.14
    3 Caucaus_Parsia 17.09
    4 Middle_East 16.22
    5 Sub_Saharian 1.25
    6 Indian 1.12
    7 Melanesian 0.06


    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 54.7% CEU + 45.3% Jew_Syria @ 0.89
    2 91.4% Gagauz + 8.6% Egyptian @ 0.96
    3 53.5% Welsh + 46.5% Jew_Syria @ 0.99
    4 76.4% Montenegrin + 23.6% Syrian @ 1
    5 65.3% German-South + 34.7% Lebanese @ 1.19
    6 90.3% Gagauz + 9.7% Palestinian @ 1.2
    7 89.9% Gagauz + 10.1% Jordanian @ 1.2
    8 83.4% Bulgarian + 16.6% Syrian @ 1.21
    9 58.8% Greek_Cretan + 41.2% Slovakian @ 1.24
    10 57.6% Greek_Cretan + 42.4% Czech @ 1.26
    11 93.2% Gagauz + 6.8% Bedouin @ 1.29
    12 68.6% Serbian + 31.4% Jew_Syria @ 1.3
    13 55.9% Slovenian + 44.1% Cypriot @ 1.31
    14 54.7% British + 45.3% Jew_Syria @ 1.32
    15 75.2% Montenegrin + 24.8% Lebanese @ 1.35
    16 63% Greek_Cretan + 37% Swedish_V @ 1.36
    17 78.3% Macedonian + 21.7% Lebanese @ 1.38
    18 92.1% Gagauz + 7.9% Yemen @ 1.38
    19 53.6% Orcadian + 46.4% Jew_Syria @ 1.4
    20 66.8% German-South + 33.2% Syrian @ 1.4

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    Vadim has a number of references but I do not know where he got them from.
    Y-DNA: J2a3* L26+ L27+

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seabass View Post
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    Very interesting results Seabass. I'd imagine your overall position on PCA auDNA plots is somewhere around Central Europe, but if your ancestry was Central European, I'd expect you to be predominantly Hungarian, Polish or (if they're in the datasets) Slovakian... Do you have known Jewish heritage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humata View Post
    Very interesting results Seabass. I'd imagine your overall position on PCA auDNA plots is somewhere around Central Europe, but if your ancestry was Central European, I'd expect you to be predominantly Hungarian, Polish or (if they're in the datasets) Slovakian... Do you have known Jewish heritage?
    Cheers Humata! Actually in World and West-Eurasian plots I tend to plot with Central Italians/Tuscans. In European plots I tend to plot more with Northern Italians. I should post some maps Doug gave me in a more relevant thread. Yep, part Jewish from Turkey.

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    My admixture results (MDLP_World22):

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North-East-European 48.57
    2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 33.3
    3 West-Asian 7.34
    4 North-European-Mesolithic 5.75
    5 Indo-Iranian 2.16
    6 Near_East 1.43
    7 Samoedic 1
    8 Austronesian 0.22
    9 Melanesian 0.16
    10 Mesoamerican 0.06

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 German_V (derived) 2.63
    2 CEU_V (derived) 2.93
    3 Austrian (derived) 4.1
    4 Welsh (derived) 4.75
    5 CEU (derived) 5.14
    6 Norwegian_V (derived) 5.92
    7 Hungarian (derived) 5.96
    8 British (derived) 6.16
    9 German-North (derived) 6.28
    10 Swedish (derived) 6.46
    11 German (derived) 6.65
    12 Orcadian (derived) 7.23
    13 Slovenian (derived) 7.25
    14 German-South (derived) 7.89
    15 Croatian (derived) 8.05
    16 Bosnian (derived) 8.78
    17 Swedish_V (derived) 9.1
    18 Serbian (derived) 9.11
    19 Czech (derived) 10.34
    20 Croatian_V (derived) 11.37

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 78.7% CEU (derived) + 21.3% Latvian_V (derived) @ 1.41
    2 72.4% German_V (derived) + 27.6% Norwegian_V (derived) @ 1.46
    3 97.9% German_V (derived) + 2.1% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral) @ 1.51
    4 95.7% CEU_V (derived) + 4.3% Ossetian (derived) @ 1.51
    5 96.3% CEU_V (derived) + 3.7% Abhkasian (derived) @ 1.54
    6 95.5% CEU_V (derived) + 4.5% Lak (derived) @ 1.54
    7 95.4% CEU_V (derived) + 4.6% Chechen (derived) @ 1.55
    8 95.5% CEU_V (derived) + 4.5% NorthOssetian (derived) @ 1.56
    9 94.9% CEU_V (derived) + 5.1% Cirkassian (derived) @ 1.56
    10 95.1% CEU_V (derived) + 4.9% Balkarian (derived) @ 1.57
    11 97.6% German_V (derived) + 2.4% Bra1 (derived) @ 1.57
    12 97.6% German_V (derived) + 2.4% Bra2 (derived) @ 1.57
    13 95.6% CEU_V (derived) + 4.4% Lezgin (derived) @ 1.58
    14 95.4% CEU_V (derived) + 4.6% Tabassaran (derived) @ 1.58
    15 95.3% CEU_V (derived) + 4.7% Kumyk (derived) @ 1.59
    16 96.4% CEU_V (derived) + 3.6% Georgian_Imereti (derived) @ 1.59
    17 95.3% CEU_V (derived) + 4.7% Kabardinian (derived) @ 1.59
    18 95.6% CEU_V (derived) + 4.4% Georgian (derived) @ 1.6
    19 97.4% German_V (derived) + 2.6% Saami (derived) @ 1.61
    20 95.3% CEU_V (derived) + 4.7% Adygei (derived) @ 1.62

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    Can anyone explain what population "CEU_V" represents please?

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    The MDLP version of Oracle seems to work very well for all of my relatives. It sorts out my father's Italian and Finnish ancestry perfectly. I find my own below to be quite interesting as well in that Norwegian seems to represent my northern European ancestry that I inherited most from my Irish/British mother with an eastern pull due to my Finnish paternal grandmother. The Jewish part which represents East Mediterranean ancestry I believe clearly comes from my paternal grandfather who is 100% Italian (Calabria region).


    Me:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North-East-European 41.59
    2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 31.86
    3 North-European-Mesolithic 10.04
    4 West-Asian 7.66
    5 Near_East 3.74
    6 Indo-Iranian 2.36
    7 Samoedic 1.14
    8 Melanesian 0.74
    9 North-Amerind 0.61
    10 South-African 0.25
    11 South-America_Amerind 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Norwegian_V (derived) 8.41
    2 CEU (derived) 8.56
    3 German-South (derived) 8.93
    4 British (derived) 9.66
    5 German_V (derived) 9.69
    6 CEU_V (derived) 9.89
    7 Serbian (derived) 10.47
    8 Orcadian (derived) 10.49
    9 Welsh (derived) 10.49
    10 Austrian (derived) 10.63
    11 Montenegrin (derived) 11.36
    12 Hungarian (derived) 11.37
    13 Macedonian (derived) 11.77
    14 German (derived) 11.81
    15 Swiss (derived) 11.97
    16 Swedish (derived) 12.01
    17 French (derived) 12.33
    18 Bosnian (derived) 12.57
    19 German-North (derived) 12.95
    20 Croatian (derived) 12.99

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 87.7% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.3% Jew-Iran (derived) @ 2.23
    2 87.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.6% Jew_Kurd (derived) @ 2.25
    3 87.5% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.5% Jew-Iraqi (derived) @ 2.27
    4 86.6% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.4% Iraqi (derived) @ 2.28
    5 87% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13% Jew_Georgia (derived) @ 2.28
    6 87.5% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.5% Jew_Iraqi (derived) @ 2.3
    7 87.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.9% Jew-Uzbekistan (derived) @ 2.34
    8 87.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.6% Jew_Tat (derived) @ 2.35
    9 86.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.6% Syrian (derived) @ 2.38
    10 64.2% Provancestralal (derived) + 35.8% Finnish (derived) @ 2.41
    11 87.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.6% Jew_Azerbaijan (derived) @ 2.43
    12 86.6% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.4% Druze (derived) @ 2.48
    13 86.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.9% Lebanese (derived) @ 2.49
    14 87.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.9% Iranian (derived) @ 2.57
    15 66.9% Provancestralal (derived) + 33.1% Karelian (derived) @ 2.6
    16 84.9% Norwegian_V (derived) + 15.1% Turk (derived) @ 2.67
    17 66.9% Provancestralal (derived) + 33.1% Finnish-South (derived) @ 2.68
    18 52.9% Kosovar (derived) + 47.1% Finnish (derived) @ 2.69
    19 64.4% Provancestralal (derived) + 35.6% Inkeri (derived) @ 2.7
    20 71.4% Swiss (derived) + 28.6% Finnish-South (derived) @ 2.71


    Father:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North-East-European 34.72
    2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 28.8
    3 West-Asian 11.33
    4 North-European-Mesolithic 11.32
    5 Near_East 9.74
    6 North-Siberean 0.95
    7 Samoedic 0.95
    8 Indian 0.93
    9 Arctic-Amerind 0.49
    10 South-African 0.26
    11 Indo-Iranian 0.18
    12 Melanesian 0.17
    13 Paleo-Siberian 0.12
    14 South-America_Amerind 0.03

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Bulgarian (derived) 11.88
    2 Macedonian (derived) 12.11
    3 Romania (derived) 12.32
    4 Gagauz (derived) 12.42
    5 Montenegrin (derived) 13.02
    6 Serbian (derived) 13.68
    7 Swiss (derived) 13.84
    8 German-South (derived) 14.84
    9 Italian_North (derived) 14.86
    10 Ashkenazim_V (derived) 15.38
    11 Provancestralal (derived) 15.91
    12 Bosnian (derived) 16.92
    13 French (derived) 16.96
    14 CEU (derived) 17.26
    15 German_V (derived) 17.41
    16 Greek_South (derived) 17.5
    17 Norwegian_V (derived) 17.66
    18 Hungarian (derived) 17.66
    19 Greek_North (derived) 17.74
    20 Austrian (derived) 18

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 54.7% Italian-South (derived) + 45.3% Finnish (derived) @ 1.91
    2 56.4% Italian-Center (derived) + 43.6% Finnish (derived) @ 2
    3 85.3% Bulgarian (derived) + 14.7% Saami (derived) @ 2.23
    4 53.1% Sicilian (derived) + 46.9% Finnish (derived) @ 2.33
    5 88.4% Macedonian (derived) + 11.6% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral) @ 2.37
    6 55% Italian-South (derived) + 45% Inkeri (derived) @ 2.42
    7 58.2% Italian-Center (derived) + 41.8% Finnish-South (derived) @ 2.51
    8 53.5% Sicilian (derived) + 46.5% Inkeri (derived) @ 2.54
    9 88.7% Bulgarian (derived) + 11.3% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral) @ 2.57
    10 86.6% Macedonian (derived) + 13.4% Bra2 (derived) @ 2.59
    11 57.2% Italian-South (derived) + 42.8% Karelian (derived) @ 2.64
    12 56.8% Italian-Center (derived) + 43.2% Inkeri (derived) @ 2.67
    13 58.9% Italian-Center (derived) + 41.1% Karelian (derived) @ 2.7
    14 85.2% Macedonian (derived) + 14.8% Saami (derived) @ 2.9
    15 60.3% Greek_Center (derived) + 39.7% Finnish-South (derived) @ 2.91
    16 56.5% Italian-South (derived) + 43.5% Finnish-South (derived) @ 2.96
    17 64.7% Greek_South (derived) + 35.3% Finnish-South (derived) @ 3.08
    18 55.7% Sicilian (derived) + 44.3% Karelian (derived) @ 3.1
    19 86.9% Macedonian (derived) + 13.1% Bra1 (derived) @ 3.13
    20 86.9% Bulgarian (derived) + 13.1% Bra2 (derived) @ 3.14


    Mother:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North-East-European 49.27
    2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 35.08
    3 West-Asian 6.33
    4 North-European-Mesolithic 4.51
    5 Indo-Iranian 2.57
    6 North-Amerind 0.82
    7 Samoedic 0.8
    8 Austronesian 0.39
    9 South-African 0.06
    10 Arctic-Amerind 0.06
    11 Mesoamerican 0.05
    12 Melanesian 0.04

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Welsh (derived) 2.88
    2 CEU_V (derived) 2.92
    3 German_V (derived) 3.48
    4 CEU (derived) 4.23
    5 Austrian (derived) 4.39
    6 British (derived) 4.83
    7 Orcadian (derived) 5.78
    8 Norwegian_V (derived) 6.03
    9 German-North (derived) 6.45
    10 Swedish (derived) 6.51
    11 Hungarian (derived) 7.14
    12 Slovenian (derived) 7.86
    13 German (derived) 7.93
    14 German-South (derived) 7.93
    15 Croatian (derived) 9.2
    16 Swedish_V (derived) 9.48
    17 Bosnian (derived) 10.18
    18 Serbian (derived) 10.38
    19 Czech (derived) 10.63
    20 Slovakian (derived) 12.42

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 81% British (derived) + 19% Latvian_V (derived) @ 1.51
    2 80.4% British (derived) + 19.6% Ukrainian_V (derived) @ 1.55
    3 80.9% British (derived) + 19.1% Ukrainian-Center (derived) @ 1.57
    4 81.4% British (derived) + 18.6% Mordovian_V (derived) @ 1.58
    5 56.4% Welsh (derived) + 43.6% German_V (derived) @ 1.61
    6 79.4% British (derived) + 20.6% Ukrainian-West (derived) @ 1.62
    7 84.1% British (derived) + 15.9% Mordovian (derived) @ 1.68
    8 83.7% British (derived) + 16.3% Russian_South (derived) @ 1.69
    9 96% Welsh (derived) + 4% Avar (derived) @ 1.69
    10 83.2% British (derived) + 16.8% Ukrainian-East (derived) @ 1.71
    11 63.2% British (derived) + 36.8% German (derived) @ 1.73
    12 64.6% German_V (derived) + 35.4% Orcadian (derived) @ 1.74
    13 97.7% Welsh (derived) + 2.3% West-Asian (ancestral) @ 1.76
    14 73.3% British (derived) + 26.7% Slovakian (derived) @ 1.79
    15 96% Welsh (derived) + 4% Tabassaran (derived) @ 1.79
    16 96.1% Welsh (derived) + 3.9% Lak (derived) @ 1.8
    17 83.6% British (derived) + 16.4% Ukrainian (derived) @ 1.82
    18 96.1% Welsh (derived) + 3.9% Lezgin (derived) @ 1.84
    19 60.3% German_V (derived) + 39.7% British (derived) @ 1.87
    20 63.2% British (derived) + 36.8% Slovenian (derived) @ 1.87
    Y-DNA: J2a3* L26+ L27+

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