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    Eurogenes K13 Regular Gedmatch vs Gedmatch Genesis

    Do you guys get any significant differences with your results?


    My regular Gedmatch Eurogenes K13 Oracle 4 results



    Admix Results (sorted):


    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 45.75
    2 Baltic 23.96
    3 West_Med 16.14
    4 East_Med 6.24
    5 Red_Sea 3.33
    6 West_Asian 2.84
    7 Amerindian 1.08


    Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
    13 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 South_Dutch @ 4.610312
    2 West_German @ 6.314012
    3 Southeast_English @ 6.629475
    4 Southwest_English @ 8.237033
    5 Orcadian @ 8.523146
    6 North_German @ 8.836022
    7 North_Dutch @ 8.934137
    8 French @ 9.276475
    9 Danish @ 9.292733
    10 Irish @ 9.947059
    11 West_Scottish @ 10.265915
    12 Norwegian @ 11.237905
    13 Austrian @ 11.744900
    14 Swedish @ 12.045116
    15 East_German @ 12.634933
    16 North_Swedish @ 16.499380
    17 Hungarian @ 17.099298
    18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 17.461975
    19 Spanish_Galicia @ 18.246355
    20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 18.377327

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% French +50% Swedish @ 3.524662


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_Finnish +25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.724934


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++
    1 French + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.534403
    2 French + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.551302
    3 French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Aragon + Swedish @ 2.634399
    4 French + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.693231
    5 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.694433
    6 French + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Southwest_French @ 2.698313
    7 North_Swedish + South_Dutch + Southwest_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.700845
    8 North_Swedish + South_Dutch + Southwest_English + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.710923
    9 French + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.717952
    10 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.724934
    11 French + North_Dutch + North_Swedish + Southwest_French @ 2.761876
    12 French + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.762767
    13 French + North_Dutch + North_Swedish + Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.764307
    14 French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Cantabria + Swedish @ 2.777186
    15 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.787021
    16 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.787418
    17 North_Swedish + South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.787733
    18 North_Swedish + Orcadian + South_Dutch + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.788691
    19 French + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.789438
    20 North_Dutch + North_Swedish + South_Dutch + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.791108



    Now my Gedmatch Genesis Eurogenes K13 Oracle 4 results




    Admix Results (sorted):


    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 45.79
    2 Baltic 23.98
    3 West_Med 16.14
    4 East_Med 6.17
    5 Red_Sea 3.38
    6 West_Asian 2.79
    7 Amerindian 1.07


    Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
    13 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 South_Dutch @ 4.694009
    2 West_German @ 6.412014
    3 Southeast_English @ 6.617486
    4 Southwest_English @ 8.194543
    5 Orcadian @ 8.488325
    6 North_German @ 8.836697
    7 North_Dutch @ 8.910302
    8 Danish @ 9.268420
    9 French @ 9.346445
    10 Irish @ 9.909420
    11 West_Scottish @ 10.223975
    12 Norwegian @ 11.205806
    13 Austrian @ 11.804305
    14 Swedish @ 12.014294
    15 East_German @ 12.671314
    16 North_Swedish @ 16.474571
    17 Hungarian @ 17.163105
    18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 17.520712
    19 Spanish_Galicia @ 18.288363
    20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 18.424599

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% French +50% Swedish @ 3.569738


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_Finnish +25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.740551


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 French + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.604225
    2 French + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.609434
    3 French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Aragon + Swedish @ 2.692015
    4 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.700574
    5 French + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Southwest_French @ 2.736367
    6 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.740551
    7 French + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.748506
    8 North_Swedish + South_Dutch + Southwest_English + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.749292
    9 North_Swedish + South_Dutch + Southwest_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.755866
    10 French + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.781165
    11 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.782254
    12 French + North_Dutch + North_Swedish + Southwest_French @ 2.812179
    13 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.817263
    14 North_Swedish + South_Dutch + Spanish_Galicia + West_Scottish @ 2.819089
    15 French + North_Dutch + North_Swedish + Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.825238
    16 French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Cantabria + Swedish @ 2.825779
    17 North_Dutch + North_Swedish + South_Dutch + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.832232
    18 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.834909
    19 North_Swedish + South_Dutch + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish @ 2.836381
    20 French + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.842801



    Genesis brought down my West Asian, but inflated my Red Sea, North Atlantic, East Med, Baltic. While my West Med stayed the same.
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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 52.71
    2 Baltic 23.58
    3 West_Med 11.89
    4 West_Asian 4.2
    5 East_Med 2.5
    6 Red_Sea 1.49
    7 Northeast_African 1.16
    8 Amerindian 1.1
    9 Siberian 0.6
    10 East_Asian 0.42
    11 Oceanian 0.36

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 West_Scottish 2.27
    2 Orcadian 2.6
    3 Irish 2.77
    4 Southwest_English 3.8
    5 North_Dutch 3.99
    6 Southeast_English 4.12
    7 Danish 4.75
    8 Norwegian 5.43
    9 North_German 6.97
    10 Swedish 8.24
    11 South_Dutch 9.29
    12 West_German 10.51
    13 French 14.25
    14 North_Swedish 14.34
    15 Austrian 15.86
    16 East_German 16.11
    17 Hungarian 20.38
    18 Spanish_Cataluna 21.06
    19 Southwest_French 21.93
    20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 21.94

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 98.2% West_Scottish + 1.8% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 1.8
    2 98.2% West_Scottish + 1.8% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 1.81
    3 98.4% West_Scottish + 1.6% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 1.83
    4 98.3% West_Scottish + 1.7% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 1.83
    5 98.4% West_Scottish + 1.6% Somali @ 1.83
    6 98.7% West_Scottish + 1.3% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 1.91
    7 98.9% West_Scottish + 1.1% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 1.98
    8 98.7% West_Scottish + 1.3% Maasai @ 2
    9 98.9% West_Scottish + 1.1% Hadza @ 2.03
    10 98.8% West_Scottish + 1.2% Sandawe @ 2.04
    11 99% West_Scottish + 1% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 2.04
    12 99% West_Scottish + 1% Sudanese @ 2.07
    13 98.7% West_Scottish + 1.3% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.07
    14 98.5% West_Scottish + 1.5% Egyptian @ 2.08
    15 98.3% West_Scottish + 1.7% Moroccan @ 2.08
    16 98.3% West_Scottish + 1.7% Algerian @ 2.08
    17 98.4% West_Scottish + 1.6% Tunisian @ 2.1
    18 98.4% West_Scottish + 1.6% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.1
    19 98.8% West_Scottish + 1.2% Saudi @ 2.11
    20 97.2% West_Scottish + 2.8% La_Brana-1 @ 2.13


    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 West_Scottish @ 2.436625
    2 Orcadian @ 2.781349
    3 Irish @ 3.066272
    4 Southwest_English @ 4.082753
    5 North_Dutch @ 4.442683
    6 Southeast_English @ 4.578540
    7 Danish @ 5.307719
    8 Norwegian @ 6.069795
    9 North_German @ 7.932236
    10 Swedish @ 9.284444
    11 South_Dutch @ 10.611475
    12 West_German @ 12.111322
    13 North_Swedish @ 16.166191
    14 French @ 16.243534
    15 Austrian @ 18.221107
    16 East_German @ 18.464033
    17 Hungarian @ 23.477184
    18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 23.857922
    19 Southwest_French @ 24.609846
    20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 24.849079

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +50% West_Scottish @ 2.292562


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +25% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish @ 2.292562


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++
    1 Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.289478
    2 Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.292562
    3 Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.298086
    4 North_Dutch + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.309339
    5 North_Dutch + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.312765
    6 Norwegian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.321800
    7 North_Dutch + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.385332
    8 Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.388673
    9 Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.391721
    10 Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.419067
    11 Irish + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.430199
    12 West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.436625
    13 Norwegian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.437437
    14 Norwegian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.438100
    15 Danish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.442790
    16 North_Dutch + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.453431
    17 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.456488
    18 Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.459660
    19 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.464067
    20 Norwegian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.468778


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 52.73
    2 Baltic 23.57
    3 West_Med 11.9
    4 West_Asian 4.17
    5 East_Med 2.51
    6 Red_Sea 1.5
    7 Northeast_African 1.15
    8 Amerindian 1.08
    9 Siberian 0.59
    10 East_Asian 0.43
    11 Oceanian 0.35

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 West_Scottish 2.28
    2 Orcadian 2.61
    3 Irish 2.78
    4 Southwest_English 3.79
    5 North_Dutch 4.01
    6 Southeast_English 4.12
    7 Danish 4.77
    8 Norwegian 5.45
    9 North_German 6.99
    10 Swedish 8.26
    11 South_Dutch 9.3
    12 West_German 10.53
    13 French 14.25
    14 North_Swedish 14.36
    15 Austrian 15.88
    16 East_German 16.14
    17 Hungarian 20.41
    18 Spanish_Cataluna 21.05
    19 Southwest_French 21.92
    20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 21.94

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 98.2% West_Scottish + 1.8% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 1.82
    2 98.3% West_Scottish + 1.7% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 1.82
    3 98.4% West_Scottish + 1.6% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 1.84
    4 98.4% West_Scottish + 1.6% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 1.84
    5 98.4% West_Scottish + 1.6% Somali @ 1.85
    6 98.7% West_Scottish + 1.3% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 1.93
    7 98.9% West_Scottish + 1.1% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 2
    8 98.7% West_Scottish + 1.3% Maasai @ 2.01
    9 98.9% West_Scottish + 1.1% Hadza @ 2.04
    10 98.8% West_Scottish + 1.2% Sandawe @ 2.05
    11 99% West_Scottish + 1% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 2.06
    12 99% West_Scottish + 1% Sudanese @ 2.08
    13 98.7% West_Scottish + 1.3% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.08
    14 98.5% West_Scottish + 1.5% Egyptian @ 2.09
    15 98.3% West_Scottish + 1.7% Moroccan @ 2.09
    16 98.3% West_Scottish + 1.7% Algerian @ 2.09
    17 98.4% West_Scottish + 1.6% Tunisian @ 2.11
    18 98.4% West_Scottish + 1.6% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.11
    19 98.8% West_Scottish + 1.2% Saudi @ 2.12
    20 97.3% West_Scottish + 2.7% La_Brana-1 @ 2.14



    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 West_Scottish @ 2.445381
    2 Orcadian @ 2.801820
    3 Irish @ 3.090581
    4 Southwest_English @ 4.079818
    5 North_Dutch @ 4.470723
    6 Southeast_English @ 4.585011
    7 Danish @ 5.333041
    8 Norwegian @ 6.092976
    9 North_German @ 7.964433
    10 Swedish @ 9.309278
    11 South_Dutch @ 10.631128
    12 West_German @ 12.132713
    13 North_Swedish @ 16.188072
    14 French @ 16.250372
    15 Austrian @ 18.245956
    16 East_German @ 18.490625
    17 Hungarian @ 23.504978
    18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 23.857307
    19 Southwest_French @ 24.606785
    20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 24.847672

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +50% West_Scottish @ 2.309369


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +25% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish @ 2.309369


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++
    1 Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.292434
    2 Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.301936
    3 Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.309369
    4 North_Dutch + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.324097
    5 North_Dutch + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.330362
    6 Norwegian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.339781
    7 Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.404918
    8 North_Dutch + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.408655
    9 Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.417958
    10 Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.427908
    11 Irish + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.444764
    12 West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.445381
    13 Norwegian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.451610
    14 Danish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.459154
    15 Norwegian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.459786
    16 North_Dutch + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.472844
    17 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.474714
    18 Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.482153
    19 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.483617
    20 Norwegian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.488283
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