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Thread: You're sure of Jewish ancestors, yet you got a low score with the Jtest? (<1%)

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    I would also pay attention to the East Med or Middle East component.
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    Netherlands 74,41%; Germany 8,30%; Belgium 2,15%; France 1,17%; Switzerland 0,29%; England 0,68%;
    Indonesian 5,47%; Dutch East Indies mixed European 1,27%; Ashkenazi 4,69%; Sephardi 1,56%.

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    Your Gedmatch shared segments with so many Jews is still the most reliable indicator IMHO Sergi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergi View Post
    Two questions:
    Do you have Ashkenazi ancestry?
    Do you match with Ashkenazi Jews in the one-to-many section @ Gedmatch.com or another DNA site?
    1. I do not have any "Jewish" relatives that I know of, but Ashkenazi still shows up in Italian DNA.
    2. How do I know which [GEDmatch] kits in the one to many are Ashkenazi? they don't have anything that says what type of ethnicity kits they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    1. I do not have any "Jewish" relatives that I know of, but Ashkenazi still shows up in Italian DNA.
    2. How do I know which [GEDmatch] kits in the one to many are Ashkenazi? they don't have anything that says what type of ethnicity kits they are.
    Sergi, as I understood, corresponded with some of his matches via the emails Gedmatch posts.They fessed up to their Jew-y-ness.I've done the same with N.E. Mexican matches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oleg (Rus) View Post
    Family Finder. Some surnames (Cohen, Shapiro, Kaplan etc) are exlusively Jewish. And I'm not going by surnames only, number of matches and sizes of clusters are taken into account as well.
    Those are undeniably Jewish names, yes. But like you said; Slavic people tend to have Jewish matches while not being Jewish. Your Jewish matches have to be fully Jewish and share segments with you before you're able to rule out you don't match with them trhough non-Jewish ancestors. The zise of and number of clusters don't say anything about having Jewish ancestry if you don't match with them on the right components. Just trying to help

    Question: Do you want to have Jewish heritage? Sounds like it's important to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    1. I do not have any "Jewish" relatives that I know of, but Ashkenazi still shows up in Italian DNA.
    2. How do I know which [GEDmatch] kits in the one to many are Ashkenazi? they don't have anything that says what type of ethnicity kits they are.
    When you see a name and suspect the person to be Jewish then:
    1. Copy their kit-number
    2. Click the (admixture heritage) button
    3. Select Eurogenes
    4. Paste the kit-number
    5. Select Jtest
    If you see more then 20% Ashkenazi the kit is probably fully Jewish

    Another option is to go through your whole list and run this J-test on all kit's lol
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    Oh I don't doubt having Jewish heritage anymore, lol. There's oral history of Jewish ancestry and a few days ago I got my moms dna results, backing up the oral history, and then I'm not even bringing up the hundreds of Jewish matches, yes

    I'm just trying to tell Oleg that matching with people that have Jewish sounding names is not proof of having Jewish ancestry. Even matching to people you know are Jewish is not proof. When a match is Jewish, you habe to validate he is 1. fully Jewish, and 2. that you indeed share segments in the one-to-one section. Only then you got proof of Jew-y-Ness

    I schooled myself like a crazy person about this subject lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergi View Post
    When you see a name and suspect the person to be Jewish then:
    1. Copy their kit-number
    2. Click the (admixture heritage) button
    3. Select Eurogenes
    4. Paste the kit-number
    5. Select Jtest
    If you see more then 20% Ashkenazi the kit is probably fully Jewish

    Another option is to go through your whole list and run this J-test on all kit's lol

    that seems like an awful lot of work. ha ha ha. I mean what if theyre half jewish via their mom, but their last name is Jenkins because of their father? isn't there a way to select an admixture and press enter to see which matching kits you have show that particular ethnicity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    that seems like an awful lot of work. ha ha ha. I mean what if theyre half jewish via their mom, but their last name is Jenkins because of their father? isn't there a way to select an admixture and press enter to see which matching kits you have show that particular ethnicity?
    No, unfortunetaly... Or I missed it

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