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    What is the most accurate GEDmatch calculator for South Asian ancestry?

    I know that right off the bat you'd want to say Harappaworld. Unfortunately i feel like it is very outdated and not even close to what I think i am! I am Gujarati. According to 23andMe; I am 99.2% South Asian.

    My known family history goes back a couple hundred years, and it's safe to say that my DNA should be matching with Gujarati DNA.

    Which calculator is most accurate for my DNA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ackkracck View Post
    I know that right off the bat you'd want to say Harappaworld. Unfortunately i feel like it is very outdated and not even close to what I think i am! I am Gujarati. According to 23andMe; I am 99.2% South Asian.

    My known family history goes back a couple hundred years, and it's safe to say that my DNA should be matching with Gujarati DNA.

    Which calculator is most accurate for my DNA?

    M280595

    Thanks
    Try puntDNAL K13 and MDLP K16 on gedmatch and post your results. We'll compare to some other South Asian users we have. Those are the "newer" calculators on gedmatch at the moment.
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    I like the 'Eurasia K9 ASI' calc. Does a great job of separating ASI from CHG. http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...SI-CHG-results

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    puntDNAL K13 Global Oracle results:

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_Asia 55.3
    2 West_Asia 29.36
    3 NE_Europe 5.51
    4 SE_Asia 3.47
    5 SW_Europe 1.76
    6 Oceania 1.42
    7 NE_Asia 1
    8 South_Africa 0.73
    9 Americas 0.65
    10 SW_Asia 0.44
    11 West_Africa 0.35

    MDLP K16 Modern Oracle results:

    MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Indian 66.57
    2 SouthEastAsian 12.59
    3 Caucasian 9.35
    4 Steppe 3.35
    5 Australian 2.71
    6 Neolithic 1.32
    7 Oceanic 0.97
    8 Arctic 0.7
    9 NorthEastEuropean 0.54
    10 NorthAfrican 0.51
    11 Subsaharian 0.46
    12 Amerindian 0.36
    13 Ancestor 0.28
    14 Siberian 0.24
    15 NearEast 0.04


    It's still a little bit off as per the castes and stuff because none of my known family members in the last 200 or so years have come from Southern India

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    Eurasia K9 ASI Oracle results:

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 50.67
    2 Ancestral_South_Indian 19.74
    3 SE_Asian 16.27
    4 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 4.38
    5 Early_Neolithic_Farmers 2.81
    6 WHG 2.54
    7 Siberian_E_Asian 1.42
    8 W_African 1.36
    9 SW_Asian 0.81

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Bengali 8.46
    2 Burusho 11.87
    3 Punjabi 13.67
    4 Pathan 16.37
    5 Pashtun_Afghan 20.43
    6 Kurd_SE 20.62
    7 Kalash 21.9
    8 Tajik_Afghan 22.09
    9 Balochi 22.77
    10 Brahui 22.85
    11 Uzbek_Afghan 24.04
    12 Makrani 24.8
    13 Paniyas 26.07
    14 Tajik_Pomiri 27.18
    15 Hazara_Afghan 27.83
    16 Puliyar 29.27
    17 Ho 31.49
    18 Kharia 32.45
    19 KOTIAS 34.04
    20 Turkmen 34.89


    This is what i got for Eurasia K9 ASI, however Bengali also seems a bit odd lol, Im starting to think that none of these calculators have enough Gujarati samples

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    I'll post some Gujarati results for the other calculators in a bit. There are actually quite a decent amount of samples from Gujarat.

    For puntDNAL Global K13:

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    West_Asia NE_Europe Americas Siberia Oceania South_Asia NE_Asia East_Africa SE_Asia SW_Europe SW_Asia West_Africa South_Africa
    IN; GUJARAT - ackkracck 29.36 5.51 0.65 0 1.42 55.3 1 0 3.47 1.76 0.44 0.35 0.73
    IN; GUJARAT - [Shah] 1 31.72 4.8 1.28 0.36 0.61 54.82 0.82 0.79 1.6 2.69 0 0 0.5
    IN; GUJARAT - [Shah] 2 32.3 5.78 1.38 0 1.57 53.8 0.68 0.47 2 1.32 0 0.56 0.14
    IN; GUJARAT- [Sumaria] 30.97 6.87 0.43 0 1.09 55.39 2.56 0.25 1.03 1.28 2.08 1.22 0.08
    IN; GUJARAT - KHOJA [Hirji] 40.88 11.79 1.1 2.26 0.27 36.02 0 0 1.02 3.28 2.61 0.75 0.35
    IN; GUJARAT - KHOJA [Kochi] 43.74 14.91 1.27 1.19 1.48 31.53 1.64 0 0 0.53 3 0 0.66
    IN; GUJARAT - KHOJA [Ladak] 42.4 11.94 1.18 2.32 0.59 34.07 0 0.76 0.47 2.59 2.47 1.23 0
    IN; GUJARAT - KHOJA [Sheikh] 43.03 11.17 0.48 1.12 1.33 34.35 2.01 0.83 0 1.98 3.62 0.1 0
    IN; GUJARAT - KHOJA [TZ: Nayani] 39.57 15.15 1.31 2.99 0.53 32.81 0 0.79 0 3.13 1.85 0 1.23
    IN; GUJARAT - LOHANA [THAKKAR] 39.48 13.07 2.08 1.78 0.31 32.43 0.94 0.32 0.45 6.07 1.87 1.28 0
    IN; GUJARAT - MEMON 42.27 13.75 1.79 0.17 0 35.51 1.52 0 0.78 1.05 0 0 0.12
    IN; GUJARAT, Shikarpur - LOHANA [GOKLANI] 38.68 13.76 1.2 2.17 0.18 35.17 0.44 0.2 1.31 3.7 2.29 0.35 0.54
    IN; MAHARASHTRA - Kokani Catholic [Saldanha] 42.14 12.75 1.04 2 0.97 33.01 0.86 0 0 3.92 1.8 1.5 0
    IN - Jain 36.22 10.47 0.35 1.03 0.38 39.21 6.65 0 2.44 0.38 1.65 1.23 0
    IN; RJ - Maheshwari [Medatwal] 32.29 7.13 0.85 0.13 0 54.07 1.94 0.35 2.33 0 0.07 0 0.81
    IN; RJ - Marwari Jain [Singhvi] 30.4 6.74 0.65 0 1.64 54.96 0.89 0 3.44 0.96 0 0.1 0.21
    PK - RAJPUT [Gohrewaha + Naru] 38.71 11.52 1.77 1.44 0.84 41.08 0 0.5 1.47 0 1.67 0.84 0.14
    Malayali Christian 01 31.95 3.9 1.21 1.99 2.19 50.97 1.58 0 1.97 1.43 2.24 0.57 0
    Malayali Christian 02 31.32 6.03 0.75 1.95 2.34 49.63 1.48 0 1.79 0 3.32 1.15 0.25
    Malayali Christian 03 33.69 2.7 0.58 2.34 1.82 50.86 1.11 0 1.44 2.22 2.39 0.87 0
    Malayali Christian 04 32.01 5.74 1.01 0.49 2.39 50.24 1.03 1.33 3.57 0 2.08 0 0.12
    Malayali Christian 05 29.73 3.74 1.55 0.26 1.49 55.69 0.85 0 2.32 1.03 2.17 1.16 0
    Malayali Christian 06 32.95 6.19 0.55 1.43 1.26 49.9 1.2 0.4 1.97 1.05 2.37 0.22 0.51
    Malayali Christian 07 32.38 4.16 0.16 2.61 1.3 50.49 0 1.19 2.68 1.9 2.83 0.29 0
    Malayali Christian 08 32.46 3.11 1.05 0.81 0.61 53.25 0.38 1.02 3.47 1.26 2.36 0.22 0
    Malayali Christian 09 32.11 4.7 1.11 0 2.15 51.32 0.29 1.33 3.15 2.57 1.05 0.23 0
    Malayali Christian 10 34.08 4.35 0.95 1.27 0.89 50.56 2.05 0.09 0.82 0.69 3.63 0.24 0.39
    Malayali Christian 11 33.11 4.86 0.99 0.58 0.91 53.58 1.85 0.05 2.46 0 0.32 1 0.26
    Malayali Christian 12 31.83 4.81 0 0 2.16 52.06 3.37 0 1.87 0.72 2.66 0.51 0
    Malayali Christian 13 32.85 4.53 1.37 1.61 1.14 50.5 0 0 3.13 2.24 1.5 1.12 0
    Malayali Christian 14 31.47 4.28 1.29 0.61 1.22 52.59 2 0 2.03 0 3.5 0.17 0.85
    Malayali Christian 15 33.23 4.48 1.53 0 1.1 50.01 1.13 0.45 1.89 1.63 3.4 0.52 0.65
    Malayali Christian 16 33.77 4.63 0.62 1.06 1.86 51.02 1.46 0 2.39 0 2.15 0 1.03
    Malayali Christian 17 33.7 3.8 0.5 0.73 1.37 52.18 0 0.33 3.08 1.82 1.97 0.07 0.43
    Malayali Christian 18 32.59 6.37 1.12 1 1.54 50.84 0.13 0.23 3.52 0 2.1 0 0.56
    Malayali Christian 19 33.29 4.64 0 1.79 2.48 50.91 1.3 1.25 0.91 2.59 0.71 0.13 0
    Malayali Christian 20 32.91 3.9 1.44 1.59 1.18 52.5 0.32 0 1.96 0.61 2.62 0 0.95
    Malayali Christian 21 35.18 5.06 0 0.84 0.87 47.14 2.42 0 1.89 0.54 4.72 1.32 0
    Malayali Christian 22 33.4 6.32 0.86 0.66 1.13 49.12 1.07 0.49 3.49 0.22 2.82 0.42 0
    Malayali Christian 23 33.65 4.64 0.97 0 1.73 50.1 2.66 0.79 1.04 1.11 2.16 0.91 0.23
    Malayali Christian 24 34.31 2.35 1.01 0.73 0.25 52.47 1.56 1.37 2.79 0 3.15 0 0
    Malayali Christian 25 35.43 3.74 1.63 0.63 1.82 51.55 0.7 1.01 1.22 0 1.93 0 0.34
    Malayali Christian 26 30.13 3.15 0.51 1.06 2.16 54.05 0.98 0.51 2.2 1.31 2.87 1.05 0
    Malayali Christian 27 33.19 3.72 1.84 0.47 0.99 52.94 1.54 1.48 1.09 1.18 0.9 0.64 0
    Malayali Christian 29 33.43 5.08 0 2.17 1.04 45.16 2.45 0.49 1.81 2.49 4.42 0.9 0.55
    Malayali Christian 30 35.54 5.38 1.33 0 1.1 50.14 1.13 0 2.06 0 1.86 0.35 1.09
    Malayali Christian 31 32.31 5.97 1.24 0 1.36 51.72 0.22 0.69 2.78 1.55 1.25 0 0.88
    Malayali Christian 32 32.55 4.19 0.88 1.21 1.63 52.09 3.13 0.73 1.92 1.69 0 0 0
    Malayali Christian 33 31.77 3.3 0.58 0.67 2.4 53.59 2.26 0 1.57 1.29 1.35 1.21 0
    Malayali Christian 34 35.34 4.19 1.07 1.69 1.1 48.03 0.41 0.77 1.94 0 4.17 0.77 0.52
    Malayali Christian 35 31.86 6.08 0.56 1.73 1.45 52.25 0.07 0 3.01 0 1.71 0.92 0.38
    Malayali Christian 36 32.34 3.96 1.26 0 1.61 52.83 2.59 0 1.16 0 3.35 0.52 0.36
    Malayali Christian 37 33.72 4.43 0.66 0.3 0.88 49.2 1.19 1.46 2.85 1.61 3.37 0 0.32
    Malayali Hindu 01 34.14 6.92 1 0.82 2.39 49 2.43 0 0 1.85 0.93 0.53 0
    Malayali Hindu 02 30.61 8.5 0.72 0.93 1.03 51.8 0.55 0.97 1.9 0.72 0.79 1.47 0
    Malayali Hindu 03 34.02 6.49 0.48 1.63 0.6 49.34 0 0.15 1.34 0.32 4.31 1.1 0.22
    Malayali Hindu 04 33.74 6.2 1.24 0 1.65 49.55 1.88 0.42 0.84 0 2.66 1.31 0.51
    Malayali Hindu 05 31.88 7.23 0.58 0.6 1.22 51.43 3.05 0.5 1.49 0 1.24 0 0.79
    Malayali Hindu 06 31.33 2.4 0.77 1.37 1.63 57.01 0.1 0 2.72 0 1.73 0.9 0
    Malayali Hindu 07 30.54 5.13 1.28 0.79 2.34 53.1 0.47 0.69 2.64 0.56 1.44 0 1.02
    Malayali Hindu 08 26.71 2.67 0.61 0.42 1.86 59.06 3.14 0.17 3.78 0 1.08 0 0.51
    Malayali Hindu 09 32.49 5.74 0 2.34 1.04 53.88 1.41 0.27 0.34 0.08 0.45 1.97 0
    Malayali Muslim 01 30.36 3.31 0.92 1.3 1.7 53.15 2.41 0 2.96 0 1.43 1.83 0.63
    Malayali Muslim 02 31.9 4.4 0.55 0.42 1.76 51.13 1.77 0.96 2.61 0 3.33 0.76 0.41
    MALAYALI AVERAGE 32.6234 4.712128 0.858085 0.955319 1.49234 51.48787 1.342979 0.459362 2.124681 0.814468 2.229574 0.581915 0.314043
    IN - BRAHMIN; SANADHYA - [Kankaria] 29.8 8.54 1.97 0 1.08 55.17 0.5 0 2.11 0 0 0.56 0.26
    IN - BRAHMIN - [Shuklha] 30.53 11.23 0.44 1.77 2.34 47.94 2.46 0 0.73 1.12 0.32 0.18 0.94
    IN - BRAHMIN; GAUR - [Vashisth] 30.45 18.1 1.64 1.69 0.59 35.31 0.12 0.79 1.62 8.09 1.06 0.42 0.11
    IN - BRAHMIN; KUNLIN - [Banerji] 33.18 12.83 1.66 1.72 0.83 40.83 0 0.75 1.79 4.86 0.74 0 0.81
    IN - BRAHMIN; MOHYAL - [Mohan] 35.68 9.43 0.43 0 1.27 46.83 2.4 0 2.06 0.56 0 0.49 0.82
    IN - BRAHMIN; NAGAR - [Nanavati] 34.97 15.99 0.47 2.66 1.72 35.79 0 1.74 0.54 5.16 0.95 0 0

    You score very similar to the Sumaria and Shahs. Also, similar to the Malayali Christian 26 and Kankaria Brahmin. Eyeballing it, you and the Marwari Jain score very close.
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    Thats actually amazing bro, where did you get those figures!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ackkracck View Post
    Thats actually amazing bro, where did you get those figures!?
    I have a pretty large list of South Asian kits.
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    That's pretty high SI for Gujurati I've seen. Are you patel?

    My punt K13 global

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_Asia 38.58
    2 West_Asia 37.23
    3 NE_Europe 15.32
    4 Siberia 3.16
    5 SW_Asia 1.51
    6 SW_Europe 1.47
    7 SE_Asia 1.41
    8 Americas 0.9
    9 West_Africa 0.3
    10 Oceania 0.12
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