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    K36 based oracle with ancients

    Ok datasheet (use with nMonte) for everybody. You can check if some samples have correct culture or age assigned. Especially German ones.

    If somebody doesn't want mesolithic or neolithic samples, can delete it. No problem. But first try all

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4...Wx2NHNuMzBDSms



    Ok my results using samples from mesolithic to Iron Age. I don't think there are out of place. Sweden Ajvide are very NE-Euro (at least those samples which I have). Rest is obvious.

    Code:
    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
        Hungary_BA_RISE479        PL_N17_Early_BA        Sweden_Ajvide52 
                  16.24384               19.93134               23.35368 
    Germany_Unetice__I0116      RISE555Russia_EBA          Kowalewko_45_ 
                  23.44922               23.75208               23.84537 
          Sweden_Ajvide58_         I0232_Srubnaya 
                  23.89358               23.90921
    Lithuania_RISE598 33.25
    Germany_EBA_I0115 17.65
    KremsWA3_Austria 13.65
    Kudrukula2_MA974_LOWx_Estonia_CCC 13.20
    RISE1_OblaczkowoCWC_PL 8.85
    Germany_Unetice_I0804 7.05
    Sweden_Ajvide59_ 3.30
    RISE567_Czech_Bell_Beaker 1.50
    I0246_Potapovka 1.15
    Hungary_BA_RISE371 0.30
    RISE150_Przeclawice_PL 0.10

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    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
                 Germany_EBA_I0164        6DRIF21_Gladiator_York_ 
                          11.48634                       11.54987 
            Sope_MA826_Estonia_CWC          6DRIF3_Gladiator_York 
                          11.84383                       12.66188 
                  Germany_BB_I0112         6DRIF18_Gladiator_York 
                          13.02869                       13.47811 
    Germany_LNBA_I0099_Halberstadt         RISE150_Przeclawice_PL 
                          13.76965                       14.01861

    Hinxton4_Celtic_/_Roman 27.50
    Germany_BA_I0047 19.85
    I0439_Yamnaya_Samara 10.15
    Kow_25 8.85
    Germany_BB__RISE560_ 7.35
    Germany_Unetice__BZH12 6.35
    6DRIF3_Gladiator_York 6.10
    RISE507_Afanasievo 4.10
    Hinxton2_Anglosaxon 3.60
    HG1_Latvia 2.30
    Hungary_BA_RISE374 1.15
    Germany_BB_I0113 1.15
    Kowalewko_22_ 0.90
    Hungary_BA_RISE371 0.65


    Interesting, maybe prof Kowalewko was Germanic?

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    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
          RISE397_Armenia_LBA_             Hungary_BA_BR2 
                      20.05535                   20.32510 
    I1632_Armenia_Chalcolithic I1409_Armenia_Chalcolithic 
                      22.87431                   23.75786 
                I9006_Mycenean         Hungary_BA_RISE373 
                      25.65741                   25.78630 
               Bar8_Anatolia_N         Hungary_BA_RISE483 
                     26.10696                   26.34950
    I1409_Armenia_Chalcolithic 20.65
    KremsWA3_Austria 18.80
    Levant_N__AinGhazal2 14.00
    I9041_Mycean 12.75
    Germany_Unetice_I0804 8.10
    RISE1_OblaczkowoCWC_PL 5.15
    RISE486_Remedello 4.70
    I1631_ArmeniaChL 2.85
    RISE396_Armenia_LBA_ 2.45
    Kow_25 2.00
    I1670_Iran_Chalc 1.70
    Kow_26_ 1.25
    Jordan_EBA__I1705 1.25
    Hungary_BA_BR2 1.10
    RISE416_Armenia_MBA 1.00
    Hungary_N_NE4 0.75
    Hungary_BA_RISE373 0.75
    RISE567_Czech_Bell_Beaker 0.65
    Germany_EBA_I0115 0.10

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    Probably I will reduce some samples from the same regions later. Like Hungary or Germany if they will be too often. I must see more results.
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    RISE568_Early_Czech_Slav_ 16.70
    KremsWA3_Austria 14.60
    Germany_Unetice_I0804 13.50
    Kudrukula2_MA974_LOWx_Estonia_CCC 13.45
    I9041_Mycean 7.50
    RISE1_OblaczkowoCWC_PL 5.45
    Sweden_Ajvide52 5.25
    I1670_Iran_Chalc 5.10
    RISE416_Armenia_MBA 4.40
    7700_Kotias_CHG 3.90
    Levant_N__AinGhazal3 3.90
    RISE546_Yamnaya_Kalmykia 3.15
    Niemcza_34 1.45
    RISE423_Armenia_MBA_ 0.90
    I1293_Iran_Mesolithic 0.65
    LaBrana 0.10

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    Code:
    "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
              Hungary_BA_RISE479              PL_N17_Early_BA 
                        15.98961                     17.10156 
                 Sweden_Ajvide70            RISE555Russia_EBA 
                        19.67458                     21.04085 
          Germany_Unetice__I0116              Sweden_Ajvide52 
                        21.15298                     21.23111 
                  I0232_Srubnaya Ardu1_MA968_LOWx_Estonia_CWC 
                        21.39566                     21.88608
    Aha

    Lithuania_RISE598 32.25
    Hungary_BA_RISE371 12.05
    Kudrukula2_MA974_LOWx_Estonia_CCC 11.90
    Germany_EBA_I0115 9.00
    Sweden_Ajvide70 8.75
    I0246_Potapovka 8.05
    RISE509_Afanasievo 3.60
    Germany_Unetice_I0804 3.60
    Sarmatian_PR9_I0574_Pokrovka 2.40
    I1293_Iran_Mesolithic 2.25
    Sweden_Ajvide59_ 2.20
    Germany_Unetice__I0116 1.85
    ZevakinoChilikta_Kazachsta_Is2 1.65
    RISE1_OblaczkowoCWC_PL 0.45



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    Lithuania_RISE598 32.25
    Hungary_BA_RISE371 12.00
    Kudrukula2_MA974_LOWx_Estonia_CCC 11.40
    Germany_EBA_I0115 9.95
    I0246_Potapovka 9.25
    Sweden_Ajvide70 7.95
    RISE509_Afanasievo 3.45
    Germany_Unetice__I0116 3.30
    Germany_Unetice_I0804 3.15
    Sweden_Ajvide59_ 2.45
    I1293_Iran_Mesolithic 2.35
    ZevakinoChilikta_Kazachsta_Is2 2.10
    Sarmatian_PR9_I0574_Pokrovka 0.40

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    It's nice, but the distances are still huge compared to Global 10.
    An interesting pattern arises though, as the Bronze Age samples from Armenia kind of look like proxies for the Balkan BA. This is especially obvious in the 4th run. Phrygians anyone?

    1) All
    distance%=5.1431 / distance=0.051431"
    Code:
             Dorkymon
                                           
    RISE568_Early_Czech_Slav_         21.05
    KremsWA3_Austria                  13.85
    RISE416_Armenia_MBA               10.30
    Germany_EBA_I0115                  9.55
    I1409_Armenia_Chalcolithic         7.90
    RISE1_OblaczkowoCWC_PL             7.60
    Germany_Unetice_I0804              6.55
    Kudrukula2_MA974_LOWx_Estonia_CCC  4.80
    I9041_Mycean                       4.55
    RISE413_Armenia_MBA                4.35
    Levant_N__AinGhazal4               3.25
    Sweden_Ajvide52                    3.15
    Hungary_BA_RISE254                 1.95
    I1665_Iran_Chalc                   1.15
    2) Bronze Age + Iron Age + Early Medieval
    distance%=6.3603 / distance=0.063603"
    Code:
             Dorkymon
                                    
    RISE568_Early_Czech_Slav_  27.00
    Hungary_BA_BR2             24.75
    RISE416_Armenia_MBA        11.80
    RISE413_Armenia_MBA         9.40
    RISE546_Yamnaya_Kalmykia    4.85
    Germany_EBA_I0115           4.65
    I9041_Mycean                4.40
    3DRIF26_Gladiator_York      3.05
    Germany_Unetice_I0804       3.05
    RISE412_Armenia_LBA_        1.90
    RISE569__Early_Czech_Slav_  1.70
    I9006_Mycenean              1.55
    Pazyryk_Be9_I05622          0.95
    RISE1_OblaczkowoCWC_PL      0.95
    3) Bronze Age (> -2000BC) + Iron Age + Early Medieval
    [1] "distance%=6.9173 / distance=0.069173"
    Code:
             Dorkymon
                                   
    RISE568_Early_Czech_Slav_ 31.95
    Germany_EBA_I0115         14.20
    RISE416_Armenia_MBA       13.85
    RISE413_Armenia_MBA       10.30
    I9041_Mycean               9.45
    Hungary_BA_RISE480         7.70
    Germany_Unetice_I0804      4.25
    RISE397_Armenia_LBA_       3.95
    Pazyryk_Be9_I05622         2.30
    3DRIF26_Gladiator_York     2.05
    4) Bronze Age (> -2000BC) + Iron Age
    distance%=7.8339 / distance=0.078339"
    Code:
             Dorkymon
                                
    Lithuania_RISE598      27.10
    RISE150_Przeclawice_PL 24.00
    RISE416_Armenia_MBA    16.05
    I9041_Mycean           15.60
    RISE413_Armenia_MBA     9.30
    6DRIF22_Gladiator_York  4.30
    AldyBel_A17_I0576       3.65
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    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    6DRIF18_Gladiator_York Hinxton5_Anglosaxon
    8.439431 8.884256
    NO3423_AngloSaxon_Teesside RISE150_Przeclawice_PL
    10.436441 10.978256
    6DRIF3_Gladiator_York 6DRIF21_Gladiator_York_
    11.411591 11.908522
    Germany_BB_I0112 Germany_LNBA_I0099_Halberstadt
    12.615812 12.801801



    [1] "distance%=0.2811 / distance=0.002811"

    firemonkey

    Hinxton4_Celtic_/_Roman 24.55
    Kowalewko_22_ 11.90
    Germany_BB__RISE560_ 11.10
    6DRIF23_Gladiator_York 10.35
    6DRIF3_Gladiator_York 6.30
    RISE391_Sintashta 5.75
    Kow_26_ 4.45
    Hinxton2_Anglosaxon 3.75
    Germany_CWC_I0550 3.50
    Kow_25 3.15
    RISE507_Afanasievo 2.60
    Germany_Unetice_I0804 2.60
    I0441_Yamnaya_Samara 1.90
    Hinxton3_Anglosaxon 1.90
    _PT_BA_TorreVelha_32032 1.25
    Germany_Unetice_I0803 1.10
    PT_BA_MonteGato_104 0.80
    Germany_Unetice_I0114 0.75
    RISE524_Mezhovskaya_BA_ 0.50
    RISE510_Afanasievo 0.40
    _PT_BA_TorreVelha_3831 0.40
    RISE154_Szczepankowice___Unetice_EBA_ 0.35
    I0235_Srubnaya 0.30
    I0358_Srubnaya 0.15
    Sweden__Ajvide53_ 0.10
    I0444_Yamnaya_Samara 0.05
    Mas_5_ 0.05



    Restricted

    [1] "distance%=0.299 / distance=0.00299"

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    Hinxton4_Celtic_/_Roman 23.60
    Kowalewko_22_ 12.70
    Germany_BB__RISE560_ 10.55
    6DRIF23_Gladiator_York 9.65
    RISE391_Sintashta 6.60
    6DRIF3_Gladiator_York 5.80
    Hinxton2_Anglosaxon 5.45
    Kow_26_ 4.35
    Germany_Unetice_I0804 4.10
    Germany_CWC_I0550 3.65
    RISE507_Afanasievo 3.50
    Kow_25 3.40
    _PT_BA_TorreVelha_32032 2.55
    Hinxton3_Anglosaxon 2.15
    I0441_Yamnaya_Samara 1.80
    Germany_Unetice_I0803 0.15

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    1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    NO3423_AngloSaxon_Teesside Sope_MA826_Estonia_CWC
    11.62485 11.73357
    6DRIF3_Gladiator_York 6DRIF18_Gladiator_York
    11.77164 12.31388
    Hinxton3_Anglosaxon 6DRIF21_Gladiator_York_
    13.12368 13.17070
    Germany_EBA_I0164 RISE150_Przeclawice_PL
    13.49235 13.49555

    dad

    [1] "distance%=0.6712 / distance=0.006712"

    Kowalewko_22_ 20.25
    RISE507_Afanasievo 15.65
    Germany_BB__RISE560_ 11.25
    Mas_5_ 8.75
    PT_BA_ERR1524174 7.65
    Germany_CWC_I0108 7.45
    Germany_BB_I0113 6.90
    Kow_25 4.95
    Kow_26_ 4.65
    RISE391_Sintashta 2.40
    Germany_CWC_I0550 2.10
    Hinxton3_Anglosaxon 1.80
    6DRIF3_Gladiator_York 1.75
    _PT_LN_Monte_Canelas_1 1.50
    RISE154_Szczepankowice___Unetice_EBA_ 1.05
    Hinxton4_Celtic_/_Roman 1.05
    _PT_BA_TorreVelha_32032 0.45
    Germany_Unetice__BZH12 0.35
    6DRIF21_Gladiator_York_ 0.05


    Restricted

    [1] "distance%=0.6476 / distance=0.006476"

    dad

    Kowalewko_22_ 22.00
    RISE507_Afanasievo 17.25
    Germany_BB__RISE560_ 13.40
    Mas_5_ 9.00
    PT_BA_ERR1524174 8.80
    Germany_CWC_I0108 8.40
    Kow_25 5.40
    Kow_26_ 4.75
    Germany_BB_I0113 3.75
    _PT_LN_Monte_Canelas_1 2.10
    6DRIF3_Gladiator_York 1.65
    Hinxton3_Anglosaxon 1.65
    Germany_CWC_I0550 1.50
    RISE154_Szczepankowice___Unetice_EBA_ 0.35
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    I0235_Srubnaya
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    I0419_Potapovka
    I0438_Yamnaya_Samara
    I0439_Yamnaya_Samara
    I0441_Yamnaya_Samara
    I0443_Yamnaya_Samara
    I0444_Yamnaya_Samara
    RISE552_Yamnaya_Kalmykia
    RISE240_Yamnaya_Kalmykia
    RISE546_Yamnaya_Kalmykia
    RISE548_Yamnaya_Kalmykia
    RISE386_Sintashta
    RISE391_Sintashta
    RISE394_Sintashta
    RISE395_Sintashta
    RISE493_Sabinka_2
    RISE492_Sabinka_2_Russia
    RISE497_Arban_1
    RISE500_Andronovo
    RISE503_Andronovo
    RISE512_Andronovo_outlier
    RISE507_Afanasievo
    RISE509_Afanasievo
    RISE510_Afanasievo
    RISE515_Okunevo_BA_
    RISE516_Okunevo_BA
    RISE523_Mezhovskaya_BA_
    RISE524_Mezhovskaya_BA_
    RISE525_Mezhovskaya_BA_
    RISE555Russia_EBA
    RISE600_Verh0Uimon__Iron_Age_
    Sweden_Motala012
    Motala01_Sweden_
    Motala02_Sweden
    Motala04_Sweden
    Motala06_Sweden
    Motala09_Sweden
    Swden_Stora_Forvar_11
    Sweden_Ajvide58_
    Sweden__Ajvide53_
    Sweden_Ajvide59_
    Sweden_Ajvide70
    Sweden_Ajvide52
    Sweden_Ire8
    Hungary_Meso_KO1_
    Hungary_N_KO2
    Hungary_N_NE1_
    Hungary_N_NE2
    Hungary_N_NE3
    Hungary_N_NE4
    Hungary_N_NE5
    Hungary_N_NE6
    Hungary_N_NE7
    Hungary_N_CO1
    Hungary_BA_BR1_
    Hungary_BA_BR2
    Hungary_BA_RISE247
    Hungary_BA_RISE254
    Hungary_BA_RISE349
    Hungary_BA_RISE371
    Hungary_BA_RISE373
    Hungary_BA_RISE374
    Hungary_BA_RISE479
    Hungary_BA_RISE480
    Hungary_BA_RISE483
    Hungary_BA_RISE484
    Hungary_IA_IR1
    RISE566_Czech_Bell_Beaker_LN__
    RISE567_Czech_Bell_Beaker
    RISE568_Early_Czech_Slav_
    RISE569__Early_Czech_Slav_
    RISE586_Czech_Central_LNBA
    KremsWA3_Austria
    HG1_Latvia
    HG3_Latvia_HQ
    Latvia_MN1__Zvej26_
    Latvia_LN1__zvej28_
    Kudrukula2_MA974_LOWx_Estonia_CCC
    Kudrukula3_MA975_LOWx_Estonia_CCC
    Kunila2_MA973_Estonia_CWC
    Sope_MA826_Estonia_CWC
    Ardu2_MA969_Estonia_CWC
    Ardu1_MA968_LOWx_Estonia_CWC
    Kunila1_MA971_Estonia_CWC
    RISE00_Corded_Estonia__Estonia_CWC
    Lithuania_RISE598
    Germany_CWC_I0550
    Germany_CWC_I0108
    Germany_CWC_I0106
    Germany_CWC_I0049
    Germany_CWC_I0111
    Germany_CWC_I0103
    Germany_CWC_I0104
    Germany_BB_I0058
    Germany_BB_I0059
    Germany_BB_I0113
    Germany_BB_I0060
    Germany_BB_I0806
    Germany_BB_I0112
    Germany_BB_RISE563_
    Germany_BB__RISE560_
    Germany_Unetice__BZH12
    Germany_Unetice_I0117
    Germany_Unetice_I0114
    Germany_Unetice_I0804
    Germany_Unetice_I0803
    Germany_Unetice__I0116
    Germany_BA_I0047
    Germany_EBA_I0164
    Germany_EBA_I0115
    Germany_MBA__RISE47
    Germany_LNBA_I0099_Halberstadt
    HG1_Ukraine_HQ
    Ukraine_N1__Vovnigi_2__early_neolithic_
    I1293_Iran_Mesolithic
    I1670_Iran_Chalc
    I1662_Iran_Chalc
    I1674_Iran_Chalc
    I1665_Iran_Chalc
    F38_Iran_EIA
    I1955_Iran_Late_Medieval
    IRAN_CHL_I1661
    BA_Vale_Ouro_
    PT_BA_TorreVelha_3831
    PT_LN_Monte_Canelas_1
    PT_BA_ERR1524174
    PT_BA_TorreVelha_32032
    PT_BA_MonteGato_104
    EHG_I0124_Samara
    I0061_OleniyOstrov
    Yuzhnyy_Oleni_Ostrov_
    Khvalynsk_I0122_EHG
    RISE1_OblaczkowoCWC_PL
    RISE139_Chociwell__PL__Unetice_
    RISE154_Szczepankowice___Unetice_EBA_
    RISE109_Wojkowice_PL__Unetice_EBA_
    RISE150_Przeclawice_PL
    PL_N17_Early_BA
    RISE431_CWC_ProtoUnetice_Poland_
    Kowalewko_22_
    Mas_5_
    Kowalewko_45_
    Kow_26_
    Kow_55
    Kow_25
    Niemcza_34
    Samara_Scythian_IA
    Sarmatian_PR9_I0574_Pokrovka
    Sarmatian_PR3_I0575__Pokrovka
    Pazyryk_Be9_I05622
    Pazyryk_Be11_I0563
    AldyBel_A17_I0576
    AldyBel_A10_I0577_Arzhan
    ZevakinoChilikta_Kazachsta_Is2
    ZevakinoChilikta_Ze6
    11200_Satsurblia_CHG
    7700_Kotias_CHG
    Kotias_CHG
    I1407_Armenia_Chalcolithic_
    I1409_Armenia_Chalcolithic
    I1584_AnatolianChL
    I1631_ArmeniaChL
    I1632_Armenia_Chalcolithic
    I1633_Armenia_EBA_
    I1634_Armenia_Chalcolithic_
    I1635_Armenia_EBA_
    I1656_ArmeniaMLBA
    I1658_ArmeniaEBA
    RISE407_Norabak_Armenia
    RISE413_Armenia_MBA
    RISE416_Armenia_MBA
    RISE423_Armenia_MBA_
    RISE408_Armenia_LBA_
    RISE412_Armenia_LBA_
    RISE396_Armenia_LBA_
    RISE397_Armenia_LBA_
    Kum4_Anatolia_EBA
    Bar8_Anatolia_N
    Bar31_Anatolia_N
    I0707_Anatolia_N
    I0708_Anatolia_N
    I0709_Anatolia_N
    Egyptian_mummy_III_jk2911_
    Egyptian_mummy_II_JK2134_
    Egyptian_mumy_I_JK2888_
    3DRIF26_Gladiator_York
    _Jordan_EBA__I1705
    _Jordan_EBA__I1730
    Levant_BA__I0867_Levantine_PPNB
    Natufian__NameI1072_
    Levant_N__AinGhazal_
    Levant_N__AinGhazal_
    Levant_N__I1671_Gabi
    Levant_N__AinGhazal_
    Levant_N__AinGhazal_
    Levant_N__AinGhazal_
    Hinxton1_Celt
    Hinxton4_Celtic_/_Roman
    6DRIF18_Gladiator_York
    6DRIF21_Gladiator_York_
    6DRIF23_Gladiator_York
    6DRIF22_Gladiator_York
    6DRIF3_Gladiator_York
    3DRIF16_Gladiator_York
    NO3423_AngloSaxon_Teesside
    Hinxton2_Anglosaxon
    Hinxton3_Anglosaxon
    Hinxton5_Anglosaxon
    RISE486_Remedello
    RISE487_Remedello_
    RISE489Remedello
    Kennewick
    Eskimo_4ky
    MOS_5_Devil's_Gate
    Lapita_Il_369
    Lapita_CP_30
    Lapita_Il_370
    RISE554_Afontova_Gora_LBA
    Malta_Siberia
    Loschbour
    LaBrana
    _Mota1
    Revenia5
    Kleitos10
    I2937_Greece_N
    I0073_Minoan
    I0070_Minoan
    I9006_Mycenean
    I9010_Mycean
    I9033_Mycenaean
    I9041_Mycean
    I9123_Crete_Armenoi

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