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    Quote Originally Posted by bryan View Post
    Describing ancients with modern population samples isn't the most accurate method
    Yes, I did the opposite - I described moderns with ancient population samples.

    Quote Originally Posted by bryan View Post
    as these populations are the ancestors of modern populations and not a mixture of moderns.
    Yes, and for example Neolithic ancients are ancestors of Bronze Age ancients.

    Ancients from different periods are ancestors / descendants of one another.

    Quote Originally Posted by lukaszM View Post
    Of course. I only want to include references from mesolithic to Iron Age like in every ancionet oracle publsihed (this is standard for them). Tomenable said something about mixing with moderns
    Mixing Moderns with Mesolithic is just like mixing Iron Age with Mesolithic.

    Both things are bad practices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    like mixing Iron Age with Mesolithic.

    Both things are bad practices.
    You are boring. Everybody can check that authors of every oracle did that. Above I listed MDLP K11 references from deep UP to Iron Age. It's quite new oracle.

    Brand new (1.08.2017) Kurd Geneplaza calc is also from WHG to BA at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lukaszM View Post
    Everybody can check that authors of every oracle did that.
    Tolan did not mix, but created one oracle for ~15,000 years ago and another for ~4,500 years ago:

    http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K36expe3.htm

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post234486
    Last edited by Tomenable; 08-12-2017 at 02:31 PM.

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    UHM What next?

    He had sampels from WHG to Iron Age Did you check it really buahahhaa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post

    Also what do you think about mixing descendants with ancestors (for example adding Mesolithic Iberians, Neolithic Iberians, Copper Age Iberians, and Bronze Age Iberians - I generally tried to avoid that)?
    IMO, it will lead to over-fitting since Bronze Age Iberians in this example will include the contribution from Mesolithic, Neolithic and Copper Age to some extent.

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    Tolan tool


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    Quote Originally Posted by lukaszM View Post
    He had sampels from WHG to Iron Age
    No, you are talking about a different thing (and he did not mix, he distinguished each period):

    You are talking about this: http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/ancient.htm

    And I'm talking about this: http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K36expe3.htm

    Stop trolling in my thread.

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    So what now it left?

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    Trolling this thread?

    You trolling yourself pretending to be smarter than authors of main oracles (MDLP, Globak K10, Puntdnal, Gedrosia or Geneplaza)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukaszM View Post
    Brand new (1.08.2017) Kurd Geneplaza calc is also from WHG to BA at least.
    But check the map - the map shows only WHG in Europe, not Neolithic farmers or Bronze Age:

    https://www.geneplaza.com/apps/neoli...ale,w_1348.jpg


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