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  1. #21
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    I will have to research it by F3...
    Where did you see the other people with H2?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by picto22 View Post
    I will have to research it by F3...
    Where did you see the other people with H2?

    Cheers
    I've seen in ydna H project.I suggest you to join Ydna H projects.

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    FTDNA resolves me to H-L901 (tested to Y-DNA37 level)

    WeGene resolves me to H1 and my two brothers to H1b2 (based on Ancestry DNA raw data).
    WeGene Paternal Haplogroup.PNG

    On wikipedia H1b2 includes SNP H-Z14258 (reference is made to ISOGG Y-DNA Haplogroup H Subclades tree 2016)

    On the ISOGG website, the 2017 Subclades tree has SNP Z14258 included in H1a2b.

    I'm totally confused

    ** Edit

    Just noticed the following text at the bottom on the WeGene Haplogroup page:
    International Society of Genetic Genealogy (2016). Y-DNA Haplogroup Tree 2016, Version: 1.87,Date: 29 March 2016, http://www.isogg.org/tree/ 30 March 2016.
    Last edited by ssamlal; 10-02-2017 at 11:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssamlal View Post
    FTDNA resolves me to H-L901 (tested to Y-DNA37 level)

    WeGene resolves me to H1 and my two brothers to H1b2 (based on Ancestry DNA raw data).
    WeGene Paternal Haplogroup.PNG

    On wikipedia H1b2 includes SNP H-Z14258 (reference is made to ISOGG Y-DNA Haplogroup H Subclades tree 2016)

    On the ISOGG website, the 2017 Subclades tree has SNP Z14258 included in H1a2b.

    I'm totally confused

    ** Edit

    Just noticed the following text at the bottom on the WeGene Haplogroup page:
    International Society of Genetic Genealogy (2016). Y-DNA Haplogroup Tree 2016, Version: 1.87,Date: 29 March 2016, http://www.isogg.org/tree/ 30 March 2016.
    you and I have the same terminal Y Snp! The new 2017 is more accurate!

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    I am H-Z4417 and per ISO site it is H1a1b1a. My ancestors come from area near Jodhpur India (NW part of India). The twist in the story is that all my close relates (same caste and native place) who don't share the same parental lineage as us are R2 or R1. So my family's y-dna group is definitely an anomaly in the area which is our native place for at least last 300-400 years of known history of my family. My 23andme results link me to distant Gujarati relatives closer to Kutch so chances are that my ancestors migrated from Kutch several generations ago. Also an interesting finding on mtDNA side is that a good number of females from my native place (same caste and community) have T2 haplogroup which is not common in India. It is common in east europe or russia. Also the R2 version of y-dna haplogroup of males in my family who dont share my dad's line, is shared by many russian males. My theory so far is that there is a lot of credence to Aryan invasion theory where people from eastern europe (likely from Yamna culture) invaded India around 5000 BC and mixed with local population at the time. Not surprisingly, Indus valley civilization along with writing script disappeared around the same time. But the people of indus valley mixed with newcomers and were together responsible for major population expansion in the rest of South Asia giving rise to Indo-Gangetic plain culture.

    BTW anyone else with H-Z4417?
    Last edited by arithmatic; 10-03-2017 at 11:14 PM.

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    I'm H-M82. Broken down to h1a1d2b. Or H-M2972 as terminal SNP I believe. This came from Scotland. Found out my great great grandfather was Romani

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    I'm H-M52, Paternal side traces back to Marathi Muslims who claimed to be Syed but are most likely descended from local converts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arithmatic View Post
    I am H-Z4417 and per ISO site it is H1a1b1a. My ancestors come from area near Jodhpur India (NW part of India). The twist in the story is that all my close relates (same caste and native place) who don't share the same parental lineage as us are R2 or R1. So my family's y-dna group is definitely an anomaly in the area which is our native place for at least last 300-400 years of known history of my family. My 23andme results link me to distant Gujarati relatives closer to Kutch so chances are that my ancestors migrated from Kutch several generations ago. Also an interesting finding on mtDNA side is that a good number of females from my native place (same caste and community) have T2 haplogroup which is not common in India. It is common in east europe or russia. Also the R2 version of y-dna haplogroup of males in my family who dont share my dad's line, is shared by many russian males. My theory so far is that there is a lot of credence to Aryan invasion theory where people from eastern europe (likely from Yamna culture) invaded India around 5000 BC and mixed with local population at the time. Not surprisingly, Indus valley civilization along with writing script disappeared around the same time. But the people of indus valley mixed with newcomers and were together responsible for major population expansion in the rest of South Asia giving rise to Indo-Gangetic plain culture.

    BTW anyone else with H-Z4417?
    A couple of points:
    I think you mean 3000 bc or 5000 ybp since the Yamna is not older than that.
    Also as far as R2 goes - there are two R2 samples from Iran one of which is on the main M124 (Y3399) line.
    "I1945 Iran Neolithic R2a-Y3399 calls
    I1949 Iran Neolithic pre-R2-M479 calls"
    https://genetiker.wordpress.com/2016...ent-near-east/

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  16. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by bol_nat View Post
    My downstream of H is more then likely same as you,H-Z14258.
    @bol_nat: I'm also H-Z14258
    What's also interesting is that my mtDNA Haplogroup is M5a'd (and your's is M5a)

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    H2 North England.

    Living DNA cautious results, 100% European.
    100% Gt Britian & Ireland.
    Broken down Related Sub regions 54.3% Northumbria
    29.7% South East England
    4.4% Orkney Isle
    3.2% Cornwall
    8.3 % Gt Britian & Ireland unassigned
    Last edited by Paul333; 10-24-2017 at 05:50 PM. Reason: adittional information

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