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    Quote Originally Posted by Pylsteen View Post
    My maps:

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    I am generally content; the only thing nagging me is the apparent lower East Asian than expected; it might even be 1/64 of my ancestry; reviewing my pedigree, I think that two women, which I have as "presumably native women" might actually have an European father.
    100/32 = 3.125 Your Asia East percentage = 4.1 % Maybe 1/32 and not 1/64? Or are you only referring to the non-Chinese bit?
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    Earliest paternal (Y) ancestor: Richard Horton/Baker - living in Feckenham, Worcs. in 1530s
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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie444 View Post
    Can you post the exact regions please? There seem to be a vast amount of different cautious combinations.
    I am not sure what you mean. My maps are available a few posts back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    I am not sure what you mean. My maps are available a few posts back.
    Hi, you only posted the percentages not the maps. I meant what regions are included in your cautious mode related groups, or are there only the ones listed when trying to add up the percentages?
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    Roughly (w/ small amounts elsewhere):
    1/4 Scottish (Aberdeenshire)
    1/4 Anglo-Irish & Ulster Scots
    1/4 West Midlands
    1/4 Yorkshire & Northumbria

    Earliest paternal (Y) ancestor: Richard Horton/Baker - living in Feckenham, Worcs. in 1530s
    Earliest maternal (mt) ancestor: dubious - possibly Anne Patchet, potential grandmother of Ann Mainwaring b. 1807 Wolverhampton (definite)

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    Europe 100%
    Great Britain and Ireland 98.6%

    South England 39.7%
    Southeast England 23.2%
    Devon 7.3%
    Cornwall 5.8%
    Aberdeenshire 4.1%
    Lincolnshire 3.6%
    South Central England 3.1%
    South Yorkshire 3%
    East Anglia 2.4%
    South Wales 1.9%
    Cumbria 1.8%
    North Wales 1.3%
    South Wales Border 1.3%
    Europe (North and West) 1.4%
    Scandinavia 1.4%


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    Europe 100%
    Great Britain and Ireland 98.6%

    South England 39.7%
    Southeast England 23.2%
    Devon 7.3%
    Cornwall 5.8%
    Aberdeenshire 4.1%
    Lincolnshire 3.6%
    South Central England 3.1%
    South Yorkshire 3%
    South Wales 1.9%
    South Wales Border 1.3%
    Great Britain and Ireland (unassigned) 5.5%
    Europe (unassigned) 1.4%

    Cautious
    Europe 100%
    Great Britain and Ireland 98.6%

    South England-related ancestry 73.3%
    Lincolnshire-related ancestry 6.6%
    Cornwall 5.8%
    Aberdeenshire-related ancestry 4.1%
    South Wales-related ancestry 3.2%
    Great Britain and Ireland (unassigned) 5.5%
    Europe (unassigned) 1.4%

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie444 View Post
    Hi, you only posted the percentages not the maps. I meant what regions are included in your cautious mode related groups, or are there only the ones listed when trying to add up the percentages?

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    Mainland percentages complete
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    World map complete
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    OK, So Northumbria's cautious grouping has NW Scotland, Ireland, and Devon?
    "This is a confidence group for Northumbria ancestry with large spread. It includes Northumbria, Northwest Scotland, Devon and Ireland populations. As it is the largest possible grouping for Northumbria and surrounding ancestry, you will likely be assigned this if either your ancestry from this region is both small and uncertain, or your ancestry is large but has multiple distinct sources from the region."
    Mystery Solved I guess. Would not have thought that Northumbria would be grouped with NW Scot and Ireland.
    South England cautious is also a weird mix: "This is a confidence group for South England ancestry with large spread. It includes South England, Southeast England, Devon and Southwest Scotland populations." Uhhh... and why does SW Scotland make sense for this one? I'm not sure I see the connection.
    For some reason the Orkney related ancestry group looks percentagewise to include Aberdeenshire (11.5 + 1.9) = 13.4, which is my percentage for this group, yet it claims to be Orkney plus SW Scotland. Anyone else get this group and have it mixed with their Aberdeen %?

    Finally, my mainland European populations are revealed: with 0% France. I did get 1.2% Iberian though, which I'm going to categorize as French. I'm going to say that Scandinavian is actually my Germanic percentage which has been mis-labeled. What I think is really cool is the 1.4% Middle Eastern / Kurdish percentage, perhaps that is related to my maternal line which I think is found in the Middle East in high frequencies. Interesting that it picked up my German and Eastern European ancestry but not my French.

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    And complete mode British Isles. only had 3.7% unassigned, which went into East Anglia, which in my case is German or French, and Cornwall, because everybody gets some Cornwall.
    Last edited by sktibo; 06-19-2017 at 08:40 PM.
    Paper trail ancestry to the best of my knowledge:
    English 28.12%, East German or Eastern European 25%, Scottish 17.96%, Irish (mostly lowland Scottish origin) 12.5%, French 8.2%, Welsh 3.125%, Native American 1.95%, and Colonial American, 3.125%, which cannot be determined with complete certainty: there is Dutch (at least 1.36%) and some English. The rest could include Spanish, Norwegian, German, and French, but these percentages would be minuscule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    Complete,Standard and cautious.



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    So Aberdeenshire does fall under "Orkney Related Ancestry" They must have made an error in saying it is SW + Orkney then.
    Paper trail ancestry to the best of my knowledge:
    English 28.12%, East German or Eastern European 25%, Scottish 17.96%, Irish (mostly lowland Scottish origin) 12.5%, French 8.2%, Welsh 3.125%, Native American 1.95%, and Colonial American, 3.125%, which cannot be determined with complete certainty: there is Dutch (at least 1.36%) and some English. The rest could include Spanish, Norwegian, German, and French, but these percentages would be minuscule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sktibo View Post
    Cautious
    Attachment 17057
    Cautious Northumbria
    Attachment 17058
    Mainland percentages complete
    Attachment 17059
    World map complete
    Attachment 17060

    OK, So Northumbria's cautious grouping has NW Scotland, Ireland, and Devon?
    "This is a confidence group for Northumbria ancestry with large spread. It includes Northumbria, Northwest Scotland, Devon and Ireland populations. As it is the largest possible grouping for Northumbria and surrounding ancestry, you will likely be assigned this if either your ancestry from this region is both small and uncertain, or your ancestry is large but has multiple distinct sources from the region."
    Mystery Solved I guess. Would not have thought that Northumbria would be grouped with NW Scot and Ireland.
    South England cautious is also a weird mix: "This is a confidence group for South England ancestry with large spread. It includes South England, Southeast England, Devon and Southwest Scotland populations." Uhhh... and why does SW Scotland make sense for this one? I'm not sure I see the connection.
    For some reason the Orkney related ancestry group looks percentagewise to include Aberdeenshire (11.5 + 1.9) = 13.4, which is my percentage for this group, yet it claims to be Orkney plus SW Scotland. Anyone else get this group and have it mixed with their Aberdeen %?

    Finally, my mainland European populations are revealed: with 0% France. I did get 1.2% Iberian though, which I'm going to categorize as French. I'm going to say that Scandinavian is actually my Germanic percentage which has been mis-labeled. What I think is really cool is the 1.4% Middle Eastern / Kurdish percentage, perhaps that is related to my maternal line which I think is found in the Middle East in high frequencies. Interesting that it picked up my German and Eastern European ancestry but not my French.
    Your theory has been vindicated!!! ;-) As for considering your Scandinavian as German, I'm doing the same thing and they do seem to back that up in thier notes:

    "The genetic mixture of Scandinavia is strongest across Denmark, Norway and Sweden, but also possibly stretches into parts of Germany."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    Your theory has been vindicated!!! ;-) As for considering your Scandinavian as German, I'm doing the same thing and they do seem to back that up in thier notes:

    "The genetic mixture of Scandinavia is strongest across Denmark, Norway and Sweden, but also possibly stretches into parts of Germany."
    Those sleepless nights and hundreds of posts boring you all to death with my ethnic estimate has finally paid off! Vindication feels good!
    Paper trail ancestry to the best of my knowledge:
    English 28.12%, East German or Eastern European 25%, Scottish 17.96%, Irish (mostly lowland Scottish origin) 12.5%, French 8.2%, Welsh 3.125%, Native American 1.95%, and Colonial American, 3.125%, which cannot be determined with complete certainty: there is Dutch (at least 1.36%) and some English. The rest could include Spanish, Norwegian, German, and French, but these percentages would be minuscule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sktibo View Post
    OK, So Northumbria's cautious grouping has NW Scotland, Ireland, and Devon?
    I don't get how populations that are so far apart can be grouped together either.

    In the East Anglia-related ancestry category, East Anglia and Northwest England populations are combined together. I really don't understand the rationale behind this.
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