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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    It went down the rabbit hole of the usual attacks on the notion that R1b-L51 might be connected to the Indo-Europeans. Same story for years and years now.
    Maybe we should create threads for these recurring arguments, so that when they appear a link can be posted for the proper place to debate the merits.

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    Where did L51/L11/L151/P310/P311 originate thread.

    The key to success will be that both parties agree to take it to the other thread(s)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellSince1893 View Post
    Maybe we should create threads for these recurring arguments, so that when they appear a link can be posted for the proper place to debate the merits.

    E.g.
    Where did L51/L11/L151/P310/P311 originate thread.

    The key to success will be that both parties agree to take it to the other thread(s)
    Probably wouldn't work, but it would be worth trying, I guess.
     


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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellSince1893 View Post
    Sadly, no longer one of my favorite threads as most posts have little to nothing to do with the title. It was good while it lasted.
    On the other hand, I wonder how long this thread would have lasted without the usual "L51 is native to western Europe" schtick. I think it was fizzling out about the time all that started. It's not like we've had any news on the Corded Ware front lately.
     


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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    On the other hand, I wonder how long this thread would have lasted without the usual "L51 is native to western Europe" schtick. I think it was fizzling out about the time all that started. It's not like we've had any news on the Corded Ware front lately.
    Rather than send you an expletive filled pm...how about a top 10 list designed to offend everyone?

    10. "My paternal line is the Steppe Superman!" "No way he's the Western Hunter Gatherer Batman!" Sorry I'm a Marvel guy. I prefer Captain America
    9. "U106 can't be Germanic because ewww! I can't be associated with anything German!"
    8. "U106 didn't enter the British Isles in significant numbers before the Anglo-Saxons because I said they didn't many times before"
    7. "Adam and Eve were Irish, so we've been here since the Ice Age"
    6. "R1b has to be Italian, because everyone else sucks!"
    5. "L11/L51/L151/P310/P311 has to be Western European because gross! I can't be Eastern European"...
    4. "Ok how about we compromise and be from the Balkans?" "No way! That's still too far east!"
    3. "Do not question Marija Gimbutas!"
    2. "Do not question Busby's numbers!"
    1. "Using present day dna numbers is just as valuable as using ancient dna"

    I will be happy to start a separate thread for each of these gems.
    Last edited by MitchellSince1893; 08-04-2017 at 02:11 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellSince1893 View Post
    Rather than send you an expletive filled pm...how about a top 10 list designed to offend everyone?

    10. "My paternal line is the Steppe Superman!" "No way he's the Western Hunter Gatherer Batman!" Sorry I'm a Marvel guy. I prefer Captain America
    9. "U106 can't be Germanic because ewww! I can't be associated with anything German!"
    8. "U106 didn't enter the British Isles in significant numbers before the Anglo-Saxons because I said they didn't many times before"
    7. "Adam and Eve were Irish, so we've been here since the Ice Age"
    6. "R1b has to be Italian, because everyone else sucks!"
    5. "L11/L51/L151/P310/P311 has to be Western European because gross! I can't be Eastern European"...
    4. "Ok how about we compromise and be from the Balkans?" "No way! That's still too far east!"
    3. "Do not question Marija Gimbutas!"
    2. "Do not question Busby's numbers!"
    1. "Using present day dna numbers is just as valuable as using ancient dna"

    I will be happy to start a separate thread for each of these gems.
    Did you crack? It seems like you lost it. In instances like these I find an adult beverage or several, and tobacco products help.

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    I'd say that you are either a Galatian or a Crusader descendant.
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