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    Deutsches DNA-Forschungsprojekt

    https://www.livingdna.com/de/deutsch...schungsprojekt

    Hilf uns, die genetische Geschichte Deutschlands zu kartieren

    Living DNA und der Verein für Computergenealogie e.V. (CompGen), der größte genealogische Verein in Deutschland, arbeiten mit führenden Akademikern, Forschern und Genealogen zusammen und benötigen Deine Hilfe.

    Gemeinsam möchten wir die genetische Herkunft der Welt so genau wie möglich geografisch kartieren. Die daraus abgeleitete erweiterte Datenbank (siehe www.livingdna.com) ermöglicht grundsätzlich allen Menschen der Welt die noch genauere individuelle Bestimmung ihrer eigenen Herkunft und ihrer Verwandtschaft mit dem Rest der Menschheit.

    Unsere vorbereitenden Forschungen haben bis zu 24 Regionen in Deutschland identifiziert, in denen wir deutliche genetische Unterschiede erwarten. Falls Deine Vorfahren innerhalb des heutigen Deutschlands oder in einer der früheren Ostgebiete (Schlesien, Posen, Pommern, Ost- und Westpreußen) geboren wurden, dann kommst Du für unser Projekt in Frage.

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    Falls Deine Vorfahren innerhalb des heutigen Deutschlands oder in einer der früheren Ostgebiete (Schlesien, Posen, Pommern, Ost- und Westpreußen) geboren wurden, dann kommst Du für unser Projekt in Frage.
    All of my great-great-grandparents were born in Posen and Westpreußen.

    And this lady could also help them:

    https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/S...amily-Tree-105

    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Steinbach-105

    Her 16 great-great-grandparents:

    Westpreußen - 5/16
    Pommern - 4/16
    Posen - 3/16
    Ostpreußen - 2/16
    Sachsen - 1/16
    Thüringen - 1/16

    Her GEDmatch kit: A682720
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    I have applied to participate in this Project.

    In order to take part, all of your recent ancestors need to have been born within a 80 km radius.

    My ancestors were born within a 80 km radius in Provinz Posen, so I qualify.

    I told them, that I have already tested my DNA and they asked me to transfer my FTDNA raw data. I asked them if people who have already tested and agree to send them their raw data are going to be tested free of charge, or for a significantly cheaper price than people without a prior DNA test. Because if the price is going to stay the same, then I prefer them to test me "from scratch" instead of transferring my FTDNA raw data.

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    Edit: They just replied, that it is for free.
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    I got the following message from them:

    Thank you very much for your email.

    It does indeed look that you may qualify. In order to take part we would require you to fill in our online survey to collect and validate information with regards to the birthplaces of your 4 grandparents. They all need to have been born within a 80km radius in contemporary Germany or from an area that was part of a German state in the past (Pomerania, Western Prussia, Eastern Prussia, Posen and Silesia).

    https://dnaworldwide.typeform.com/to/N4vvK1

    If you think you meet the criteria, please take our survey and upload your "Build 37" autosomal DNA results to put yourself forward and we will get back to you as soon as possible.

    Once you have completed the survey we will check your information and if you qualify you will be able to get a Living DNA account for free (within approximately 10 weeks) for your atDNA.
    For reference, my ancestors are from Provinz Posen:



    In order to contact them via e-mail:

    Living DNA Support: help@livingdna.com

    Living DNA Research Team: research@livingdna.com

    Or just take the survey: https://dnaworldwide.typeform.com/to/N4vvK1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    All of my great-great-grandparents were born in Posen and Westpreußen.

    And this lady could also help them:

    Her GEDmatch kit: A682720
    Prussian. She likely can.

    But it would seem any Germanic Jews can not. I asked as some of the Germans I know who would qualify via grandparents' (and great-grandparents) place of birth happen to be Jewish. LivingDNA's response: For the time being we are not planning to have a Jewish cluster, however we will pass this feedback on to the wider research team.

    For some reason that struck me as a bit odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    All of my great-great-grandparents were born in Posen and Westpreußen.

    And this lady could also help them:

    https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/S...amily-Tree-105

    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Steinbach-105

    Her 16 great-great-grandparents:

    Westpreußen - 5/16
    Pommern - 4/16
    Posen - 3/16
    Ostpreußen - 2/16
    Sachsen - 1/16
    Thüringen - 1/16

    Her GEDmatch kit: A682720
    interesting that GEDmatch (Eurogenes K13) shows a lot more than German:


    Population
    North_Atlantic 37.01
    Baltic 40.43
    West_Med 12.10
    West_Asian 4.10
    East_Med 3.24
    Red_Sea 1.43
    South_Asian 0.43
    East_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 0.60
    Northeast_African 0.63
    Sub-Saharan -

    Jack Wyatt

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    Ok, so I am now officially part of this Project.

    Apparently I'm among the first 100 participants:

    "(...) You are one of the first 100 people whose ancestors were all born in contemporary Germany or the former Eastern provinces. (...) We hope you are pleased with this outcome and we will let you know more about what happens next within the next 2 weeks. Thank you also for helping spread the word about the project. We hope you will enjoy the results once they come in. (...)"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calas View Post
    Prussian. She likely can.

    But it would seem any Germanic Jews can not. I asked as some of the Germans I know who would qualify via grandparents' (and great-grandparents) place of birth happen to be Jewish. LivingDNA's response: For the time being we are not planning to have a Jewish cluster, however we will pass this feedback on to the wider research team.

    For some reason that struck me as a bit odd.
    LOL -- they REALLY don't want my family: Apparently we are too cosmopolitan for the study.

    My dad's grandparents: Aschaffenburg/Bad Schwalbach -- 90km
    My dad's paternal g grandparent: Bad Schwalbach/Neustadt -- 290km
    My dad's maternal g grandparents: Aschaffenburg/Aachen -- 269km (and Aachen's parents were from Liege and Tirlemont, Belgium)

    And then one line is also of Ashkenazi descent. Oh well.
    R1b (aka M343) > M269 > L23 > L51 > L11 > P312 > DF19 > DF88 > FGC11833 > S4281 > S4268 > Z17112 (S17075-, L644-)

    Archaeological cousin: 6DRIF-23 of Driffield Terrace Roman Cemetery, York (Z17112+, S17075+, L644-)

    Known ancestors: Francis Cooke (I-M223/I2a2a) b. 1583; John Wing (U106) b. 1584; Richard Warren (M269Hidden Content ) b.c. 1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b. 1583; John Mead b.c. 1634 (I2a1/P37.2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by C J Wyatt III View Post
    interesting that GEDmatch (Eurogenes K13) shows a lot more than German
    Note that all maybe except for one (Kopiske?) of her 16 great-great-grandparents had German surnames:

    Steinbach, Liebenau, Gnoss, Scheffler, Hass, Hasse, Voss, Zimmermann, Kopiske, Eichstädt, Feustel, Schmeisser, Hedke, Lück, Neumann, Schulz
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