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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Note that all maybe except for one (Kopiske?) of her 16 great-great-grandparents had German surnames:

    Steinbach, Liebenau, Gnoss, Scheffler, Hass, Hasse, Voss, Zimmermann, Kopiske, Eichstädt, Feustel, Schmeisser, Hedke, Lück, Neumann, Schulz
    ^^^ I started a thread about her GEDmatch results before:

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post218693

    In every PCA, she plots to the east of present-day East Germans (DDR Germans).

    Check also my threads on Y-DNA frequencies in former eastern German provinces:

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post158785

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post175421

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post176774

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post199957
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    I have applied to participate in this Project.

    In order to take part, all of your recent ancestors need to have been born within a 80 km radius.

    My ancestors were born within a 80 km radius in Provinz Posen, so I qualify.

    I told them, that I have already tested my DNA and they asked me to transfer my FTDNA raw data. I asked them if people who have already tested and agree to send them their raw data are going to be tested free of charge, or for a significantly cheaper price than people without a prior DNA test. Because if the price is going to stay the same, then I prefer them to test me "from scratch" instead of transferring my FTDNA raw data.

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    Edit: They just replied, that it is for free.
    I've just applied. I wonder if they accept me as from North Dutch stock, not part of the map. Otherwise you once plotted me as typically West or Northsea German....so nice to compare with I guess. My recent ancestors were born within a reach from about 30 km....this can't be a refusal ground
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    I have contacted some more people who will join their Project:

    1) One person with all ancestors hailing from the borderlands between Kreis Preußisch Stargard, Kreis Tuchel, Kreis Konitz and Kreis Schwetz (all these in West Prussia) back to at least 1773 AD.

    2) One person with all ancestors from Kreis Jarotschin back to at least 1800 AD.

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    I would like to see the genetic profile of people with ancestry from Rügen:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rügen

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post173006

    There are already some papers which hint at genetic distinctiveness of people from that island:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14717531

    Apparently, the population of Rügen is in terms of genetics clearly separated from the populations of Denmark, Sweden and of Northern Germany (samples from Hamburg):

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    24 haemogenetic markers (5 erythrocyte antigens, 7 polymorphisms of serum proteins, 12 polymorphisms of red cell enzymes) had been studied in 171 individuals from the island of Rügen (Germany, Baltic Sea). The cluster analysis separates clearly the Rügen sample just as the islands of Hiddensee and Ummanz from the neighbouring populations. The comparison of the data with neighboured larger populations as for instance Denmark, Hamburg or Sweden clearly results in an exceptional position of the island of Rügen. The possible reasons are discussed. (...)
    http://www.wizlaw.de/assets/images/Rujana-Karte2.jpg


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    Quote Originally Posted by AntG View Post
    I'm impressed that they have a Süd Hessen zone. Wonder if Germania Superior has a slightly different ancestry composition with the sample population they are gathering?
    Does anybody know if there is easy access to the Living DNA phylogenetic Y tree?
    There should be a German Jewish composition. There are several Ashkenazi basal R1b Y lines that have history right around the ShUM cities. The family histories are long and very well documented. It would be a shame not together that ancestry composition before its too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Note that all maybe except for one (Kopiske?) of her 16 great-great-grandparents had German surnames:

    Steinbach, Liebenau, Gnoss, Scheffler, Hass, Hasse, Voss, Zimmermann, Kopiske, Eichstädt, Feustel, Schmeisser, Hedke, Lück, Neumann, Schulz
    Interesting.

    I have found a number of ways which DNA moved all around the globe during the 18th Century. The assumption among genealogists seems to be that if you can trace a line back 200 years, then it has been from there for hundreds of more years,

    For example, how many German-American colonists who were Loyalists during the American Revolution re-migrate after the war, bringing mixed blood back to Germany?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    I have contacted some more people who will join their Project:

    1) One person with all ancestors hailing from the borderlands between Kreis Preußisch Stargard, Kreis Tuchel, Kreis Konitz and Kreis Schwetz (all these in West Prussia) back to at least 1773 AD.

    2) One person with all ancestors from Kreis Jarotschin back to at least 1800 AD.
    Ethnic Germans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonardo View Post
    Ethnic Germans?
    1. Ethnic Poles from Kociewie (my wife's family).

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    Well my grandparents are born about 1000 Km apart. All 4 are South-Germans, but my father's side used to settle in Northern-Serbia until 1944, they are quite unadmixed, but also their ancestors come from areas which is more than 90 Km away from each other. So all Grandparents are quite unadmixed South-Germans, but I am not qualifiying, nevertheless curious about what they'll find out.

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    Das ist doch absurd. Inwiefern unterscheidet sich ein Bayer genetisch von einem Württemberger? Verständlich wäre eine genetische Einteilung in Ost- (slavische Einflüsse) und Westdeutschland (je nach Variation des östlichen Einflusses), jedoch nicht in die unterschiedlichen Bundesländer. Die Absichten Living DNAs sind offensichtlich: sie wollen mehr Kunden aus dem deutschen Raum. Die Wissenschaft steht im Hintergrund.
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